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Old 03-13-2018, 10:15 PM #231
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That's interesting you only got two seeds... how much inbreeding did you have to do before you got sterile pollen?
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We are not currently pursuing international acceptance or certification, mostly due to archaic seed rules. For a variety to be registered, it must be sexually reproducible and, at least in the US, certifying agencies must be able to re-use seed from season to season (2 in Colorado) to demonstrate <0.3% THC compliance. First, that's obviously not possible with feminized seed. Second, our varieties are F1 hybrids; even if a certifying agency were able to produce seed from our females, the F2s look absolutely nothing like the F1 parents. CBD to THC ratios and total cannabinoid content are similar, but that's about it...
You live in the land where everything is possible and you can't register an F1? In Europe, you can register F1's (and with hemp it's often the F2 which is actually sold to farmers, not the registered F1 seed line). Suppose that the parent lines need to be rather stable...
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Old 03-14-2018, 12:17 PM #233
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You live in the land where everything is possible and you can't register an F1? In Europe, you can register F1's (and with hemp it's often the F2 which is actually sold to farmers, not the registered F1 seed line). Suppose that the parent lines need to be rather stable...
Our parental lines don't naturally reproduce without one being sprayed with STS...that is a major issue with the USDA. Another is that they are not currently accepting cannabis seed and claim it is still a controlled substance. It's a strange situation where the agency in charge of overseeing industrial hemp refuses to acknowledge congress' laws and have instead bowed to previous DEA proclamations that it is all illegal. We're making slow progress on that front...
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That sterile pollen result is kinda interesting, it makes the possibility of breeding some really dank but entirely unseedable infertile feminized seeds seem realistic. A seed that that could grow sinsemilla under a storm of pollen could be really valuable and useful.
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That sterile pollen result is kinda interesting, it makes the possibility of breeding some really dank but entirely unseedable infertile feminized seeds seem realistic. A seed that that could grow sinsemilla under a storm of pollen could be really valuable and useful.
Sterility sets in quick when selfing, sometimes by F2 (though not in this case). Viable pollen from STS is generally the first casualty, followed by unreceptive or difficult to pollinate flowers. It is rare--but not exceedingly so--for the latter to occur. We view pollen sterility as a cry for outcrossing by the plant.

Making more progress on our CBG breeding program. We now have the tools / plants to offer consistent 300:1+ CBG to THC ratio varieties. This material can be concentrated and still be below the federal 0.3% THC threshold. Not bad, right? Results below are from a low-tech QWET (quick wash ethanol) of whole plant material and overnight evaporation on a heated stir plate. The lab (Pixis) is the most precise in Oregon right now. That said, please note that they bungled the total CBG calculation by using a decarboxylation conversion yield of 88.7% (commonly used for THCa-->THC and CBDa-->CBD) when it should be a 53% mass reduction with CBGa-->CBG. (use the latter to see how this plant is actually over 300:1).

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Is this thing on?

Ha ha! Sorry, couldn't help it. Not much response to 300:1+ CBGa to THCa plants. We're telling a few people in the real world about these developing seed lines too and we're getting the same sort of reaction...crickets. Too new?
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Is this thing on?

Ha ha! Sorry, couldn't help it. Not much response to 300:1+ CBGa to THCa plants. We're telling a few people in the real world about these developing seed lines too and we're getting the same sort of reaction...crickets. Too new?
That is amazing. Thanks for sharing. Really love to run some of your beans.
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This has been an amazing thread Socio. Yeah, you're early on CBG. I think the masses are still focused on CBD.

It's awesome that your seeds produce the plants they are supposed to. So far, every zillion to 1 CBD strain I've grown has come out about 50/50 LOL.

You have been doing an amazing job. Your moment will come.

After all, when you think about it in a certain way, you are reversing what breeders have been trying to accomplish since they brought the first Indica from Amsterdam to Cali to cross it and come up with the highest THC strain possible.

Now, you're trying to get the LEAST THC. LOL just teasing.

Talk about full circle. LOL

Again, awesome thread. I have learned so much. Thanks
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Is this thing on?

Ha ha! Sorry, couldn't help it. Not much response to 300:1+ CBGa to THCa plants. We're telling a few people in the real world about these developing seed lines too and we're getting the same sort of reaction...crickets. Too new?
Hey man, put on your pedagogical hat here. You are profoundly far ahead of the rest of us. You talk, me listen.
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Is this thing on?

Ha ha! Sorry, couldn't help it. Not much response to 300:1+ CBGa to THCa plants. We're telling a few people in the real world about these developing seed lines too and we're getting the same sort of reaction...crickets. Too new?
probably get a bigger reaction from politicians.

it's insane that you have to focus on trying to eliminate healthy elements from plants because of outdated laws.

if it helps you get me any closer to being able to sample these high CBG flowers then...

what's the BHO like from your CBG flowers? big dab get you altered or affected?
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