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Old 01-04-2019, 08:11 AM #11
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Iíve never tried to reverse a plant with Florel but have used it working at greenhouses and tree care companyís

We used it to promote branching with different plants starting at 250 ppm -4-500 ppm range.

Sprayed many sweet gum trees in early spring to prevent fruit set, couple times, a week apart.
The only soil application Iíve seen is for reducing plant height in spring flowering bulbs.
Yeah it doesnít seem to be doing much on the reversal front. The plant is still alive after the second application. Itís still putting out pollen sacs although I have yet to see any signs of actual pollen. I turned off the fan in the tent after the first application just so it wouldnít blow pollen all over. With no fan all pollen should just fall and eventually some should accumulate on the leaves and soil and so far nothing.

Like I said Iíll stick with this for another couple weeks. Iíll do another application next Wednesday and give it another week to show any signs of change and if nothing by then the plants will be chopped.

I do have a clone of each plant and I am thinking that once I put my current seedlings into flower I will put those in too and try a semi-foliar application with those. By semi I mean I wonít be spraying and it sure wonít be going on any foliage. Instead Iíll use a cotton swab to apply it at the nodes starting the very first day I put them into flower.

This current experiment was run with plants that had already started putting out pollen sacs, and while Iím sure it didnít help anything, Iím not convinced it doomed the experiment either.
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I’m going to subscribe to this thread. I have been wanting to try florel out on a male for quite some time and was curious if a soil drench would also work to reverse a male. Thank you for doing this J-Icky, this type of experiment is much more beneficial than most of the threads I see on here. Well, at least there is more observing and less arguing.
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Old 01-05-2019, 06:31 AM #13
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Well folks today I can officially say that Florel as a soil drench will not stop a male plant from producing pollen sacs and pollen. The pollen has officially began flying. While I didn’t get the results I was shooting for I still can’t say that this experiment was a failure. I can’t really call any experiments failures when you learn from them even if the results weren’t what you hoped for.
With this latest development I will be chopping the plants to limit the spread of pollen. Even though I have no current females in flower I don’t want to risk having stray pollen in or around my tent even though it would be highly unlikely to remain viable long enough to do anything.

For those that are still interested In Using Florel to reverse a male I will continue to use this thread in the next few weeks as I try my semi foliar technique on the clones I have of these males rather than start a new thread. I also don’t want to post in the existing threads as they are old and the one that would fit the most is so long the info would be lost easily to anyone looking.
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Old 01-05-2019, 07:06 AM #14
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Always worth a shot, be interesting to see how it goes at beginning of 12/12, plus the focused application instead of spraying the leaves.

When spraying trees to prevent fruit set like sweet gum, it would work to prevent new fruit from forming but not stop or abort fruit already in development.
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Always worth a shot, be interesting to see how it goes at beginning of 12/12, plus the focused application instead of spraying the leaves.

When spraying trees to prevent fruit set like sweet gum, it would work to prevent new fruit from forming but not stop or abort fruit already in development.
Hmm interesting so maybe the fact that they had already started meant they had passed a point of no return. Sadly it didnít stop the plant from continuing to put out new pollen sacs though so maybe the soil drench just wasnít a good method.

I know Skunkman has successfully reversed a male using ethrel which is just a more concentrated form of Florel. He was also the one that said to avoid getting it on the foliage as it would burn and kill the leaves. Thatís my reasoning for going with the direct application next go round. Rather than trying to be pin point with a spray I figured direct application would be the best bet. Really the next gonround will be more about finding the right dilution rate.

There is another user on here saying they were successful with preventing herms with 1oz/gal but I think Iíll stick with the 2oz rate to start as that better coincides with the rate used by Skunkman.
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