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Old 01-26-2014, 03:53 AM #41
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A hemp variety registered in one of the countries of the former republic of yugoslavia or a Yugoslavian land race?
Yugo Landrace would be nice.

Just wondering why you want such a variety...
i'm part croatian and want to grow hemp, not really complicated or thought out.
Because in Yugoslavia, mainly all the Hungarian varieties and the Italian Fibranova have been cultivated. Nowadays it's mainly Serbia which cultivates hemp and it seems as if they were gradually switching to 'Novosadska konoplja' which is a Fleischmann hemp selection and therefore of Italian origin.
Also, the Fleischmann hemp had a strong influence on Hungarian varieties and therefore most of the agricultural hemp in Serbia is closely related to Italian hemp.

On the other hand, I suppose that in this region you have a fair chance of still finding feral hemp (either endemic or more likely fibre hemp gone wild). Best chance here would be to find someone living there .
Eventually I would like to make a bio-diesel, but that is far down the road. Looks like I have a lot to learn. Thanks for pointing me down some pathways



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Old 01-26-2014, 11:15 AM #42
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Ah I see, sentimental reasons .
May I ask where you live right now? Because Yugoslavian hemp will mature rather late (for example, it will not make ripe seeds in North Germany) and the fibre hemp varieties used there grow really tall for European means.
If you want an 'original' with a rather high genetic variability and likely similar appearance than Yugoslavian hemp, you could buy a few seeds of the North Italian landrace Carmagnola in Switzerland KLICK ME.
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Old 01-26-2014, 04:59 PM #43
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Thanks for sharing a bit of history. Unfortunately, most of these varieties don't exist anymore (maybe there's still something at the VIR genebank though) mostly because of elevated THC/CBD content.
Modern cultivars usually have a THC content below 0.3% and a CBD content around 1%.
Check out THIS LINK for modern varieties approved in Canada or THIS ONE (the table on PDF page 34, publication page 28 respectively, is self-explaining) and THAT ONE (table is on PDF page 81 or publication page 75 respectively) to two German theses .
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Old 01-26-2014, 05:41 PM #45
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Thnx for the link , but i don't think they're all gone

Hemp harvesting USSR 1956



Gives a clue about the heights of those Russian varieties.

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Apropos links, these were the same than already posted in my first post (the part in text size 1). I thought volks might have overlooked them easily .

Your're right, the 'Ermakovskaya Mestnaya' should still be around, but the low numbered USO/US varieties... I didn't wanted to say they're extinct, even the old 'Bernburger Einhäusige' is still maintained but these varieties are usually kept only for preservation purposes, maybe also for experimental breeding, and not accessible to private persons. Recently, I contacted the responsible at the VIR by mail using my university account, title and all regarding that subject but haven't got any reply ;( .

BTW, just read your signature... Do you know by any chance whether Bócsa's 'Panorama' variety is still around?
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Old 01-26-2014, 06:13 PM #47
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I haven't seen any seeds of the Panorama variety of Ivan Bócsa, but had a Leb27 once which had the same properties.



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It annoys me no end that the hemp breeders are so terrified of THC. It also annoys me that dopers are interested in nothing but higher and higher THC. I understand why, of course, but Cannabis ought to be approached in a unified way. There is no other species on earth that is capable of providing the broad human benefits of Cannabis in all its various uses. The Cannabis gene pool is vast and much could be learned by integrated attention. Mexcurander's little experiment crossing Finola with a drug strain is just the thing. Just grow out the strange crosses to see what happens. Surprises await.
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I haven't seen any seeds of the Panorama variety of Ivan Bócsa, but had a Leb27 once which had the same properties.

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You HAD a Leb27 once... You haven't seeded it, did you?
Or is it just a rather common phenotype in lebanese varieties?

BTW A wonderful bush you had !
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It was a male but properly dusted the early flowers of a Chinese variety which stood just behind.
This phenotype seems to be rare in the Lebanese, but you never know.

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