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Old 12-22-2016, 11:27 PM #21
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Hey Sound, that is really well done!

For a while (2014) I was air layering to build canopies for my dtw ppk:



The plant in the very front (its hard to see), all you see is the trunk, laying down. But she is really that whole table. This was easier than a scrogged production mother, because I kept making a mess. LOL

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Old 12-27-2016, 11:35 AM #22
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Update: Sorry haven't got back lately, my ex sent the Popo's to do do a welfare check over a family law civil matter i'm dealing with, and of course thinks I have a large scale operation so she told them that too! Needless to say I sent them right back on down the road with no consent to search. Right now I basically have 1 plant still, imagine that! All the layers, minus the 2 that just got adopted, are potted up and still attached to mom (no pun intended) and doing great!

So I have an appointment to renew my medical card today, something I haven't really wanted to do with the new laws around here.. but forced too now in case they come back. I will refuse to sign the registry anyways and only be able to have 4 plants instead of 6 or more if I did. Ive heard of people going down because their plants are too big so I will have another medical patient come adopt the remaining air layer clones unfortunately, sad because they are huuuuuge!. I think the one plant should be fine but might totally shut down anyway we'll see how it pan's out. Sucks when you have a child with someone who has an addiction to other thing's and try's to take you down with them when fighting for your child and being a good dad. My kids needs will always come before anything including my beloved plants. :(

Otherwise it's been a complete success and 100% so far despite a bad winter cold spell, having to go to court, fluctuating temps and super low humidity levels from the heaters running.

Here was some pics from the same night as my last post, how I started to do things for the medium sized ones. Used 3/4 gallon pots on the 2 biggest, and had one more bubbling in a DWC setup that I killed just in case :(
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Old 12-27-2016, 06:13 PM #23
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Update: Sorry haven't got back lately, my ex sent the Popo's to do do a welfare check over a family law civil matter i'm dealing with, and of course thinks I have a large scale operation so she told them that too! Needless to say I sent them right back on down the road with no consent to search. Right now I basically have 1 plant still, imagine that! All the layers, minus the 2 that just got adopted, are potted up and still attached to mom (no pun intended) and doing great!

So I have an appointment to renew my medical card today, something I haven't really wanted to do with the new laws around here.. but forced too now in case they come back. I will refuse to sign the registry anyways and only be able to have 4 plants instead of 6 or more if I did. Ive heard of people going down because their plants are too big so I will have another medical patient come adopt the remaining air layer clones unfortunately, sad because they are huuuuuge!. I think the one plant should be fine but might totally shut down anyway we'll see how it pan's out. Sucks when you have a child with someone who has an addiction to other thing's and try's to take you down with them when fighting for your child and being a good dad. My kids needs will always come before anything including my beloved plants. :(

Otherwise it's been a complete success and 100% so far despite a bad winter cold spell, having to go to court, fluctuating temps and super low humidity levels from the heaters running.

Here was some pics from the same night as my last post, how I started to do things for the medium sized ones. Used 3/4 gallon pots on the 2 biggest, and had one more bubbling in a DWC setup that I killed just in case :(
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Old 01-22-2017, 05:43 AM #24
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Old 01-22-2017, 12:20 PM #25
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Thanks Russ, every thing went smooth did not have any problems with air layering at all, except the above post I made, and having to re-pot them all again temporarily with extra coco while still on the plant. Watering 2.5 ft tall bushes in dinky solo cups 2-3 times a day can be a pain lol, but could have saved my ass big time. I mean seriously, everyone talks about plant numbers being a benefit of this, and that was put to the test right away. Took the edge off my situation, which is a lot better now!
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Update: I have found that just cutting and transferring the freshly rooted large air layers straight to DWC without waiting for a bigger root ball in coco to work awesome, the leaves never droop even without covering the plant with garbage bags that way.

Same with the more rooted out ones transplanted into coco 1 gal pots, directly from the solo cups, they all show no signs of wilting or stress.

The only time I had a plant or 2 start to wilt is because I almost split off a few of the air layers branches below the cups from moving them so much when watering. They perked right back up though and grew roots even faster when I got to them some water and feed. had to cut them by the time just a sliver of skin was holding them on mom.

All in all I have no doubt that from now on, going straight into a 3.75 inch net cup and then a DWC bucket, after my 3-way root riot method (the only way I will go from now one) shows roots, will work 100%! Even on the biggest clones with just a few roots. I'm talking .5 to 1+ inch stalks even

Many thanks to everyone on ICMag, that ever took the time to teach about air layering, I can clone out full sized plants like a boss now!
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Old 01-22-2017, 03:36 PM #27
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Great work....funny thing..... larger air layers are actually easier to do than small ones....

Its just much easier to ring the air layer...
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Old 01-26-2017, 08:37 AM #28
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Im in michigan....if you are doing air layering within the state..... the new law has a nasty surprise.....

(p) “Plant” means any living organism that produces its own food through photosynthesis and has observable root formation or is in growth material.

This was a major change recently..... see the or part....

My reading says this means that a cutting as soon as its put in medium is a plant....the same would apply to an air layer....

Now IMO there is no advantage to airlayering over cloning..... I just got rid of my air layers and am now going back to standard cloning....

c'est la vie....

If you are in another state ....read the laws carefully...... I just noticed this change almost by accident.... Unless Im mistaken this became law in december...
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Old 01-26-2017, 11:16 AM #29
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Thanks for the heads up, I will look up my state, although I feel one could challenge the law. Maybe it would be wise to consult a lawyer on the matter, before completely giving up.

It does says "plant" not "plant(s)", though that is basically what it is saying..or is it? damn.

But if it doesn't say "root formation(S)" that that means that it isn't a "plant" unless it has air layers.. am I correct?

I feel that the plant with air layers is one organism, the only thing I really worried about is if they chop the plant up for evidence, they are crooked that way.

Say that you used DWC with water instead of another medium to root the layers(one of my ideas that seems to work great), and without the secret pass code to enter the door to the room, an alarm sets off a motorized spindle that rips the mini containers away with strings to expose the roots with NO extra medium..
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Also, what if you left just a small piece of skin connecting the air layer to the mom, then the air layers are still receiving there food from mom, and are still one plant with visible roots in growth medium.

Trying to wrap my head around it and it only seems as if the bark was completely taken away (not allowing food just water) that it would be more than one plant.
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