Originally Posted by midwestHIGHS
I am speaking from experience as well and from extensive research, do you even use negative pressure in conjuction of that consistent heat and thin film? Also the only reason a single solvent extract turns waxy/buddery is because the inactive plant waxes have formed wax hydrates and thus creating nucleation points for the crystalline laden to form.
This does NOT mean it is more purged that shatter, saying wax/budder is the end all state for fully purged single solvent extracts couldn't be more wrong.
Sorry to say, but experience don't mean much I've come to notice, I fellow on here said he had been making oil for 5 years blasting directly into water and couldn't understand why one would not want to purge like this.
Absolute amber which is bho that has been winterized with a polar solvent such as ethanol to remove plant waxes, lipids and fats never waxes up like a improperly purged single solvent extract and always stays clear translucent.
lol at knowing it contains 2% butane at the right point. do you have your oil tested for residual solvent at various stages of purging?
I have been making decarboxylated absolutes and qwet consumed with 1:1 ratio of coconut oil in capsules for ever. It also doesn't take 13hrs to fully decarboxylate oil, my inactive oil is fully decarboxylated within 30 minutes at temperatures of around 250F and watch the co2 and h2o bubbles form and release. Decarboxylation a raw bho does not cause it to become almost pure cannabinoids all your doing is activating the cannabinoids that are in their carboxylic acid form, which happens when we vaporize, smoke or heat for said amount time and temp. Your raw bho still contains about 5-20% inactive plant waxes, lipids and fat.
A low wax content single solvent extract produced utilizing extremely cold temperatures to lower the amount of contaminates picked up, properly purged under vacuum, thin film, and consistent heat, bubbles until there is no reaction, almost always produces pristine shatter/sap. Like I said before many many improper purging techniques produces wax.
well I will do you a little respect and not call you an idiot, but you are an ass hole, so STFU and read the whole post this time
uhhh I didnt say that budder is the end all state, you just stopped reading my post mid way through because you are a genius apparently. If you actually read my post I think you would realize you are getting mixed up over the word shatter not the actual purity of your oil or your scientific knowledge.
so, ok good you get the scientific process of decarbing. I thought I had put it in lamens terms for you. Also I know it can be fully done in 30 minutes, but if you leave it up to 13 hours you do get everything activated and this is better medicine. also I do it at at 90 to 120 after 30 minutes not 250. Otherwise I would ruin it. also yes when you are activating it you are removing the molecules by turning them to gass, and removing a chemical bond that keeps it from being active in the first place. that part is just basic shit.
also i know it is not pure that is why I said ALMOST pure. again you didnt really read what I said.
further more if you are calling the final oil stage shatter you are wrong in what you are calling it. Shatter is just a made up term.
Would you like me to do a step by step instructional for you? Then I will show you me taking from a glassy form, to a buddery form, to an oil for that is much like a sap, but by no means is it that solid sticky bullshit that most noobs call shatter, just because it is still clear and hardens. I will believe that your's is not this, and it is true oil, when you show me.
also I bet if you made the budder right you would see the differnce. bad budder and bad shatter stick to your fingers. Done right they dont.
In my house right now I have shatter, budder, oil, and winterized oil that the final waxes have been cleaned out of. I can make them all.
The dumbass that purges with water for 5 years is just that. those are the people making unpurged oils and calling it shatter 99 percent of the time. That is why when people tell me they have solid clear oil and callit shatter I tell them to put it back on the heat. if i bubbles after it turns back to liquid you did it wrong. If it doesnt then maybe you did it right. You dont even need a vaccum purge. you just have to understand the chemistry behind butane, just one chemical compound, It is not that much to know.
Also your a little bitch for down rating my other post with out even reading the whole thing because if you did read it you would have never bothered to post in argument.