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Old 12-25-2013, 09:39 AM #31
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So I have never made bubble hash before but I am curious. Since basically you are trying to remove all the water wouldn't a vacuum oven work? Or even a convection oven without vacuum?
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Old 12-25-2013, 10:22 AM #32
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Try sublimation to remove all moisture from the extracted resin when frozen. Less heat.

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Old 02-13-2014, 06:44 PM #33
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Hey Sam!

Sorry to dredge this up after so long has passed, but your suggestion intrigued me and I can't find any information on it, so I figured I'd go to the source...

I am a Prop 215 patient and do ice water extractions as frequently as I have time. I was working with some fresh frozen material a couple weeks ago and, while the results were absolutely amazing in every respect (taste, melt, effect, etc.) a lot of the product came out in such a sticky, putty-like state that all my normal methods for increasing the surface-to-air ratio to ensure even and effective air-drying proved ineffective. Once air dried, the product still turns to insanely sticky goo after a few seconds of body heat contact. As a result, my sturdiest efforts to pass it through a sieve, a micro plane, even to cut it into small pieces with a knife were unsuccessful. I even went so far as to freeze it, freeze my microplane, and then try to plane it in the freezer. But even the heat from my gloved hand in a cold environment was too much to maintain a workable composition.

So I'm sitting with my patty on ice trying to figure out how the hell to process it without it molding up on me. Then I find your post at the end of this informative thread and go on to look up information on the process of sublimation, which, as I have come to understand it, is the active process in freeze-drying where bringing the material's temperature way down and then decreasing pressure using a vacuum pump causes the frozen water particles to instantly vaporize and be removed from the material.

This seems like a brilliant idea for drying ice water extractions! Compared to air-drying, even in a humidity-controlled environment, it seems like you get a much more complete, consistent drying effect while also maintaining extreme cold to preserve all the volatile terpenes. Surprisingly enough though, I can't really find any information outside of your post that would suggest anyone has actually tried such a method. Do you have experience doing this? If so, how have you found the process and what equipment did you use? Any extra information would be very helpful, as I'm finding basically nothing!
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Old 09-13-2015, 04:44 PM #34
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Ok gang coming to the experts;

I've been making a lot more Ice Bubble Hash and the person who showed me how to do this told me to dry it on cardboard to remove the water...but I suspect their are much better ways to dry it?

I am having problems using cardboard and sometimes it sticks to the CB and comes off with the hash..NOT appealing.

Please make some suggestions of better ways to dry my Ice Bubble hash, here are some pics of some I just did for you to enjoy, it is really nice full melt stuff, when it doesn't stick to the CB.

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plastic bags isomerize with thc do not use, i use two paper towels to dry it after pressing thru screen in two days it is dry and falls right off the paper towels!!!!!!
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Try sublimation to remove all moisture from the extracted resin when frozen. Less heat.

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My freeze dryer is gonna make me some 6 star full melt! Have you seen the prices some dispensaries in oregon are selling full melt for??? 110 dollars a gram last I checked on their leafly site.
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As for curing I have seen very reputable people recommend it. If it works despite THC degradation it almost certainly has to do with the synergistic effects of various terpenes and other cannabinoids on the buzz. Terpenes are thought to play are bigger role all the time. It may be that the one that evaporates first is regulating the buzz in a negative manner. So, while it does not make it stronger it "could" still make it better.

I also think that "curing hash" as opposed to "letting it get old" has to do with quantity. A huge brick of properly made hash is usually hardened and oxidized around the edges and the inside still fresh/freshish.

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Old 09-29-2015, 06:31 AM #37
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45 micron sour bubble bubblehash sublimated using a freeze dryer.
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Old 09-30-2015, 10:20 PM #38
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Hey BlazinAzn what kind of freeze dryer do you have ?
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Old 09-30-2015, 10:39 PM #39
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I take the bubble an put it on parchment or cardboard. Currently I do the parchment and put it in an empty fridge. 2 days its bone crumbly dry. Then I squish it back into hash. Id rather not press it to dry it in those mesh drying towels. Only drys it to a degree an locks in moisture in the core.

Had the same issues with too sticky bubble. 1 batch molded to hell. Gotta do the fridge thing. The cold even counteracts any mold growth. Win win...
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so I can dry my Ice water Extract in my vacuum chamber?
please elaborate?,
or show me a freeze dryer thats not $4000...
need alternatives to BHO...
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