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Old 01-29-2010, 12:32 AM #21
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JPG - My thoughts exactly. The 150HPS is officially in full operation!!

Kweezy - Great job man! Very awesome bud both quality and yeild for your first time and especially for bagseed. What a great first run, now you just have to perfect your growing conditions, get some genetics and you will be set! Just imagine how much more you could get now that you have one excellent grow under your belt, kudos to yoU! +rep for sure!!




In other news, I officially have 568 glorious watts of light in my closet over my 9 beautiful ladies. I rigged up a piece of aluminum that came with a dryer vent kit over my existing 250w reflector. I cut one hole in the reflector to mount the socket for my 150HPS, so now I have a double long reflector with a 250 and 150 HPS in line with each other. For some extra light on the sides I have also added a simple fixture with a Y adapter and 2 42w CFLs to each side of the closet.

My main reason for adding the light was the low temps of the closet after getting the exhaust fan setup. At night, since I never turn the exhaust off, it was getting down to like 59F and after being on for 12 hours was barely breaking 70F, WAY too low!! Now with the added light, the canopy temp was 79-80 and the temp down at the base of the plants was 76-77. Much more acceptable.

When I get home tonight I will do a full picture update of the plants and the new reflector/light combo. Today marks 2 weeks in flower and 4 of the 9 plants STILL do not have any suitable growth for clones. The 5 in the back have cuttings over 12" long!! So I will try my hand at cloning this weekend, taking 2-3 from each female that has cuttings available, so should be 10-15 cuttings total for now.

I measured my tallest plant for the first time in a few days. 4 days ago she was 26" and last night I measured her at a whopping 36.5", good god I hope she doesnt get any taller. I can take my HPS' up another 2" then they are MAXED! I could always remove the shelf, but whats the point of having 4' plants under such low wattage when only 12-18" of the plant will have decent bud? Maybe Ill just tie the taller ones down a bit who knows. Stay tuned for tonights update!! I will post very early tomorrow morning actually, considering my "evening" starts at midnight.

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Old 01-29-2010, 05:33 PM #22
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Right on man, lets see the pictures!




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Old 01-30-2010, 07:12 AM #23
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DAY 41

Plant Stage: Flower (Day 14)
Light Cycle: 12/12
Light: 250w HPS, 150w HPS, 2x42w 2700k CFLs, 2x42w 6500k CFLs (568w Total)
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OK, got a few changes and lots of pics. I cleaned out the closet real well and took the cabinet out that I used to start this batch. I will be using that cab for some clones that will be donated to a friend to keep the strain or strains alive. I am not going to go to all the work of lightproofing the cab 100% or the flower chamber in the closet, so I need to have the cabinet outside the closet. Once this batch of clones are fully rooted and transplanted into 16oz cups, they will be taken and I wont need the cab up & running anymore.

So, without further delay, on with the pictures before this gets too long. Due to the low temps, I decided it was necessary to add more light. I rigged up my 150w HPS from my minifridge in line with the 250w HPS I have been using. I dont want to invest anymore money into this so I used what I had around the house.

Drilled a hole in the framework of the reflector to mount the socket and cut a notch out for the wires.


Here it is all put together and hanging up. The makeshift reflector is more for keeping the light out of my eyes than anything, but it seems to be working ok as a reflector. You can also see the fixture, Y adapter and 2 42w CFLs on the wall in this pic. I added a set to each side wall.


Side view of the new "super reflector"



And now for the lineup. I have had to break down and start tying branches down due to the height of some of these monsters. The 5 in the back row are the tallest by far, topping out at 37" on the right. Thats a yard (3ft) stick next tot the tallest one.


The 3 in the middle of the back row were staring to get too close for comfort.


I strung a piece of hemp yarn across the closet to tie the back plants down to. It worked out OK, but ideally I should have started LST a LOOOONG time ago lol.


And now for the 4 gimpy lil gals. Maxing out at 28.5" tall, these 4 are staying alive but not fattening up much. I cant take a single cutting of any of these 4 yet. I dont know how they all stretched so bad, I kept the lights as close a possible the whole grow and started with 6500K CFLs....? The girls on the far left is the one that spent almost 30 days in a 16oz cup. I dont expect much off her, maybe 1/2 oz.


Here are all the ladies, freshly watered and back home. I am using a nice 3/4 thick board set on 2 blocks to raise the smaller 4 up, and a cardboard box under the 2 smallest ones. The canopy is somewhat even now, but more importantly the front plants are on a sturdy shelf now.



And last, a couple top shots with flash on and off.

Flash On


Flash Off




I plan on devising a cardboard light trap for the bottom of the door. There is roughly a 1.5" gap under my dor and I have been propping things in front of it to keep light from going in during lights out. I plan on making a "periscope" style cardboard trap to put on the inside of the door, without the mirrors of course. After that everything should be pretty well setup for me to just sit back and water them till April.

As long as the plants all fill in nicely and don't buckle under the weight of their buds I think the yield should be very nice. If the back 5 plants develop as well as the one I grew before, I would say 1.5oz each would be very doable.


Wish me luck! All comments and questions welcome!

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Old 01-30-2010, 08:01 AM #24
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these are looking superb. pullin up a chair!
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hey kolor they lookin AWESOME man. I have my nirvana indoor mix and 3 redneck deisal x OG vegging rite now, its weird tho. The nirvana plants are fragile and growing slow, dont noe y... so now all i can do is hope taht these fems flower good and dont turn hermie and are of potent genetics
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Old 02-02-2010, 10:13 AM #26
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Let the cloning begin!!!

OK, I know its a little late but I have finally decided to start taking some cuttings off my 5 large ladies. I decided to take 2 cuttings from each of the 5 "back row" plants. I took either the lowest 2 or the next 2 up if the lowest ones looked poor.

I took a bunch of pictures again so lets get the ball rolling. I used the top of a rubbermaid container as a working surface. I bought some Green Light rooting hormone, used Rapid Rooters and used a brand new razor blade to cut with. The cuttings in the picture were average size of all the cuttings I took with the exception of 2 or 3.


I wanted to experiment with different methods so I planted some that were cut long enough to use the lower fan leaf nodes as sites for new root growth by cutting the fan leaves off and making sure that section of stem made it into the rapid rooter. I cut pretty much the rest of them nice & short so they wouldnt lean over easily. I cut most large leaves and left a few upper leaves. I clipped the ends off of any leaf that was already dropping at the tip, otherwise left them alone. Here are the first 4 I did on Sunday.



Tonight after work I took cuttings from the remaining 3 back row ladies. I definitely took the shortest cutting tonight. It will be neat if it survives but it may be a bit TOO short. heres a pic


The 4 "front row" plants have branches at the bottom that are barely 2 inches long, I will wait a couple more days and clip them I think. For now I just have 10, 2 from each of the back row plants. Here they are


Side shot to compare height.



Dome on, plants and inside of the dome sprayed. In about 6 hours or so there will be no more moisture on the "ceiling" of the dome, but the walls will still have drops. The dome doesnt fit very tight but I think its working ok. Still spraying everything down twice daily, maybe 3 times.



And what would a picture update be without a least a tease of whats going on in the closet eh? Ill post a nice update in a few more days, bud check out the new developments. As you can see things are beginning to frost over, and every budsite is starting to look OH SO familiar to me. I really think, for he most part, that they will end up looking just like the beautiful A11 "mutt" I grew a while back.



I just realized I havent posted pictures of the last plant I harvested form this batch of seeds. With any luck, all 9 of these will be bigger badder versions! Here are some harvest shots of the last one i grew. Unfortunately I didnt take any dry bud shots, just shots of the plant the day she came down.



Top bud here, she leaned into a CFL a day before harvest. you can see the fried spot in the top right.




And here was one of her lowest branches. literally one of the 2 lowest branches on the plant. After a 2 hour quick dry it was some of the best smoke I have had. Just tasted like shit haha!





The height issues still persist, and by god they just wont stop trying to get taller. I have had to start taking drastic measures to keep things under those lights. Heres an example of the tops of 2 of my tallest gals tied down to a line of hemp I strung across the closet. Gotta do what ya gotta do eh? The above plant was harvested at 26" tall. I STARTED to LST the ones I have now at 37". If the largest one was not tied down Id say she would be 40" or more now. Just nuts.





Thats it for now, pic update of the whole closet soon. Hope you guys enjoy the pics, let me know if I am overdoing it or if I am leaving anything out.

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Old 02-03-2010, 03:09 AM #27
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This morning I noticed the clones are starting to sag just a bit more. I would appreciate any advice based on the above pics. Should I cut more off of each or do they look ok? Should I work on making my humidity dome air tight or is everything ok as long as there is SOME moisture collecting on the inside of the dome?

When I get home from work is usually the longest the clones will go without a good spraying. by that time, the only moisture on the inside of the dome is on the sides but nothing on the top. As stated before, the dome fits over the tray like it was made for it, but just doesn't give an air tight seal.

Any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated. I used JJScorpio's guide for cloning and as far as I know I did everything right, but its my first time too so who knows right? lol


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How are the clones looking KB, any better? I wish I could steer you toward an answer but I don't know enough about it to be of much help.

I do have a request though. How about a couple of shots of the closet taken where you can see the whole setup or at least the lights, plant, and pots all in the same shot. If thats possible, I'd love to see the whole thing! Sorry to sound like such a pot perv but if your gonna give out the porn, you might as well take requests right, haha



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Old 02-05-2010, 11:35 AM #29
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DAY 48

Plant Stage: Flower (Day 21)
Light Cycle: 12/12
Light: 250w HPS, 150w HPS, 2x42w 2700k CFLs, 2x42w 6500k CFLs (568w Total)
Current Medium:
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Current Nutrients: Schultz 10-15-10 Every watering @ full strength
Strain: Various Apollo11 Crosses


OK time for another official update and I took a bunch of pics as usual. JPG I made sure to get some good full closet shots for ya, and I remember how much you love the fan leaf trich porn, so hold on to your seat


I am more and more astounded with this grow every day. By the end I will have more bud in my little closet than I had ever imagined being in there at once. Lets get these pics flowing...

I have finally removed the front "shelf" that I had all the shorter plants on. Only 1 plant out of the 4 still requires some propping up to be even with the others. I removed the front 4 to tie down some tips and fan leaves of the back 5 plants, heres a pick of all 5 in the back.


I will most likely not ever bring the plants out again until harvest, because I have begun to tie them all to a line I strung across the closet. Before tying the front 4 to it, I decided to line them up for a pic. These are my smallest 4 ranging from 24 to 31 inches tall.


And here are the full closet shots you asked for JPG. First off with only the back 5 in there.


And with all 9.


I also managed to get up close and personal for some fun shots of the "jungle". Some of these fan leaves are GINORMOUS! Check this one out....not too bad for an indoor plant.


I have been doing some serious tying down to keep things away from those hot HID bulbs, here are 3 of the back row plants tied down as an example.


Heres a little bud porn. Compared to just a couple days ago the buds are sooo fat. It was pretty much a cluster of white hairs not even 3days ago.


And some up close bud shots. Check out the trich coverage even on the base of the fan leaves in these next 2 pics. Pretty amazing considering we are only 3 weeks into flower!





And lets not forget the clones. I sort of snapped one of the back ones in half trying to put the hood back on today, so we'll see how that goes. They are looking ok still but not great. I still havent had to add any water to the plugs they are quite moist. but I do spray generously 2 to 3 times a day.



The main problem is not getting the temps high enough so I have added some bulbs. I put one of my 42w 6500K bulbs in there as well as 2 additional 23w bulbs. Well see if I can keep it over 70 like this.



From now on, I wont be able to take any single plant shots, only group shots of the closet. I dont want to bother with removing a bunch of twist ties and redoing them just to take pics. So Ill try to get a lot of canopy bud shots form here on out. Im sure by next week the buds will be drool worthy!


Please provide me some feedback too. Good, bad, questions, I dont care. I just love hearing other opinions and since I keep my hobby a very close secret, its nice to know what others think. Thanks a ton guys!!

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DAY 55

Plant Stage: Flower (Day 28)
Light Cycle: 12/12
Light: 250w HPS, 150w HPS, 2x42w 2700k CFLs, 2x42w 6500k CFLs (568w Total)
Current Medium:
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Current Nutrients: Schultz 10-15-10 Every watering @ full strength
Strain: Various Apollo11 Crosses



I am going out of town tomorrow and it is extremely late already so I will do a pic update as fast as I can. Didnt take a whole lot of time snapping pics so bear with me.

Things are coming along very nicely. For the most part, the plants have all stopped stretching and are focusing more on bud production right now. Out of my 10 clones planted around 7 days ago, 5 have shown roots. I will transplant those 5, take 3 to a friend and make bonsai moms out of the other 2 to give away at a later date. The clones were in need of a transplant yesterday but it was 15 degrees last night and the soil was in the garage. i was afraid the cold soil would shock the clone so I put the soil in my closet overnight. Today it was good to go. Here are all 5 clones just before transplanting. They showed roots at 6 days.



And here they are after a quick transplant into 16oz cups.


And for the big girls. Here is a group shot of the closet.


More shots of the LST going on. The plant in this first shot will have a nice long, dense top cola.


I trained this one so hard that the bend is greater than 90 degrees. She took it very well and is actually my tallest, most vigorous plant.


Here are a couple half assed bud shots. These were the last shots I took and I planned to take better ones but my batteries died :(




I saved the best for last. The trichome coverage is insane on these babies. On a couple plants even the fan leaves are starting to frost up. Check this fan leaf out, even the STEM is covered in trichomes. Sounds funny, but I cant wait to smoke that fan leaf HAHA!




Thats all for now, Im going out of town for a few days and the wifey will have to hold the fort down. Everyone cross your fingers for me!!!! hehe!

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