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Old 02-07-2010, 05:43 PM #21
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Now I see better what did u mean Suomi-Prkl, females maybe HAVE TO tie if they stretch too much, but lets wait and see..

3.2.2010: -

4.2.2010: Changed light cycle to 18/6.

5.2.2010: -

6.2.2010: Given first time (GHE One Part) bloom nutes. I prefer more Biobizz nutes, but my Biobizzes were outdated. Old One Parts are still good, because those are not organic.

7.2.2010: Male looks a lot like female (because not stretching at all), but I have not noticed any pistils on it.

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Old 02-08-2010, 05:30 AM #22
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28.1.2010: Last unidentified plant shows pistil too!

Now I have two females for replanting and seven males to choose from as father(s?) to next generation.

Smallest male won't be one. 3-4 biggest males are maybe not good choise, because they might be pure Royal Danes... One of them is also hardly branching, so that is out of plans anyway. Not sure about a bit sativa look male, not good for stabilising maybe..

Maybe I choose only one male what looks very similar to first shown female. Second female looks a bit different than any other of plants.

I have some time to think and hear opinions before do anything radical
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How many males did you keep?

Of course it depends on your goals but.. In my opinion using as many males as possible is the best when working with outdoor genetics. Every year is different so it's good to have a lot of variation in there to make sure at least some plants flourish each time. I wouldn't even be too quick in leaving out those males that don't seem quite up to your standards, if some season is very different from the usual those genes might be the ones that shine.
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How many males did you keep?

Of course it depends on your goals but.. In my opinion using as many males as possible is the best when working with outdoor genetics. Every year is different so it's good to have a lot of variation in there to make sure at least some plants flourish each time. I wouldn't even be too quick in leaving out those males that don't seem quite up to your standards, if some season is very different from the usual those genes might be the ones that shine.
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This time I kept only that one male shown at last post. I usually go with feeling when selecting males (trying to keep all realities in mind). I just did not liked other males as lot as this one and ended up to keep only it.

I think it is more important to use more males when cross starts to come stable. Next generation will still give variety of different phenos, even used only one male.

Of course it would been safer to select some other males this time too, but in other hand it might be good for stabilising in small gardens to have smaller (but healthy) genepool. Like a betting to selected ones, sometimes you lose something and sometimes you win something

I see your point quite clearly anyway, but you might confuse a bit to situation where cross is somehow stable, this is first generation of cross of two different strains. If don't do any selections now and later it can end up to quite anything. In your theory way deeper you should keep also as much females as possible

Some general questions are how much you can stabilise before genepool gets too small or how long it is possible to regenerate something from small genepool?

Also I'm not sure how much of traits come from genetics straight and how much come from mutations. I mean if plant is not likely to survive outdoors, would it try to change its genetics somehow? I have readed mutations are happening all the time, but only few of them stays.
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Old 02-17-2010, 10:26 PM #24
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8-15.2.2010: -

16.2.2010: Changed light cycle to 12/12.

17.2.2010: Females are getting too big... Not sure what to do with them, lol.

Actually I know that I should move to another closet with more horizontal space and tie them down or build scrog, but thats a much work! Hopefully I manage to do that before tops burn...

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18.2-1.3.2010: Prepared to reorganise ladies, having lots of problems, but...

2.3.2010: Finally I'm at "new beginning"!

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Looking good, what is the smell like?

About the mutation thing... I'd imagine it's more because of plain natural selection instead of sickly plants mutating to fit the environment. Plants that don't survive don't make seed either and the unfavorable traits die out eventually.

But who knows..
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Looking good, what is the smell like?

About the mutation thing... I'd imagine it's more because of plain natural selection instead of sickly plants mutating to fit the environment. Plants that don't survive don't make seed either and the unfavorable traits die out eventually.

But who knows..
Hi. These are not smelling much yet, just mild herb aroma or something like that.

I did not meant it would not be more about natural selection what counts on plants to fit environment and genetics also have to have ability for certain mutations of course. So, mutations can be thought also like a part of natural selection... But if mutations are really happening all the time in genetics I don't think it is very sick thing

If I fail with this line, there will be still lot of great strains to grow outdoors and even some quite similar to this. I just like to try, think and learn different breeding things. That gives a lot of more for me of growing hobby

Pic on next update. Had to do some more tying and wait for females to gain some strength after that before new photos..
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Old 03-16-2010, 06:02 PM #28
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Time for update for a long time..

3.3-15.3.2010: I have been having lots of problems with these "wild" ladies... There must be easier ways to grow your buds indoors in small closet

Scrog could done better, but I should thought that seriously earlier...

16.3.2010:



But wtf is that?!:



It can be some of ungermed seeds what I hide to soil at beginning of project, if not some dropped new one, or something from previous grows
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Old 03-21-2010, 08:56 PM #29
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17.3-18.3.2010: Not much to report, plants have started to slow down stretching.

19.3.2010: I have noticed buds have started to produce some resin... Thats good as I have been a bit worried where it lasts..

20.3.2010: -

21.3.2010:



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I thought that Doubleruder II could reduce size of Royal Dane, but seems likes it is very passive in genetics or these females are pure Royal Danes? Or maybe one of these is cross as also selected male..? Next generation can give some smaller or autoflowering phenos, but I'm quite sure I don't test it indoors
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Looks like pure Royal Danes to me..not a bad thing in my book thou, i love her smoke and buzz...How about the smell?
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