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Scrappy-doo · 08-27-2015, 01:49 AM

And they didn't come to the conclusion that perhaps the % went up because more people are consuming cannabis? Doesn't prove that cannabis was the cause of these crashes. If the total # of fatal car crashes also went up that's the only way that arguement could have a leg to stand on. Otherwise duh of course the % of people with thc in their system went up because the % of the whole population using cannabis has gone up. It's not rocket science.

08-27-2015, 07:36 AM

^^^ very good point

Adze · 08-27-2015, 09:17 PM

Scrappy-doo got it right. What if an equal number of drivers who weren't in fatal crashes were tested, would we find the use of cannabis has soared to 20% among them? What would that prove? Only the weak minded are persuaded by such statistical arguments.

Crusader Rabbit · 08-27-2015, 09:37 PM

After medical marijuana use was approved in Montana and Colorado, drunk driving accidents went down because more people chose to smoke pot instead.

Splatoid · 12-24-2018, 03:51 AM

I know for a fact how much more dangerous I was while drinking than when smoking pot. I cant say I have never been enough to not drive safely.I can remember an indecent where My bud turned me on to just one tiny hit and I thought stingy bastard. And got in my car and couldn't find third gear on my three speed Valiant.and got lost on the curve heading into town in the country on a road I drove on every day. But it was never as bad when I was drunk and i had to cover one eye to see only one car coming at me. And I still saw double.
But the stats that are thrown about are crap. Kaiser is making me take drug test's to be able to keep getting Oxy. I take about one every 3 days for about 7 years now. If they find marijuana in my system they cut me off. But drinking alcohol would be alright.Bastards!!!

JustSumTomatoes · 12-24-2018, 08:23 AM

How many people crash while high as opposed to wreck while dead sober? You probably shouldn't drive while on anything but those statistics on pot related crashes seem a bit stretched.

yesum · 12-24-2018, 10:42 AM

You should not be high and driving no matter what, but this study does little to make a case against pot. No idea how much thc in the people and the other drugs involved. Propaganda again. I will drive after the initial heavier buzz subsides, but even then rarely do. After an hour I am not very high no matter what I smoked.

For me pot does not make me less aware or mess with reactions but does tend to promote daydreaming which is not good, like focusing on something interesting I see rather than the road. Alcohol messes with reactions, coordination and causes a lack of fear, all bad news.

Doing concentrates and edibles is something else again. I could see a problem there.

Teddybrae · 12-24-2018, 10:53 PM

How does the quote go? Is it: "Damn Lies and Statistics"?

Douglas.Curtis · 12-25-2018, 06:24 AM

How many of these crashes were from out of state drivers trying edibles for the first time? How many were in-state drivers trying edibles for the first time?

Prohibition ripples are freaking stupid. Stifling information is dangerous and has caused a huge backlash in society.

08-27-2015, 01:49 AM	#11
Scrappy-doo Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 2,430	And they didn't come to the conclusion that perhaps the % went up because more people are consuming cannabis? Doesn't prove that cannabis was the cause of these crashes. If the total # of fatal car crashes also went up that's the only way that arguement could have a leg to stand on. Otherwise duh of course the % of people with thc in their system went up because the % of the whole population using cannabis has gone up. It's not rocket science. __________________ Damn it stinks in here! https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=299402
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08-27-2015, 07:36 AM	#12
acridlab Guest Posts: n/a	^^^ very good point
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08-27-2015, 09:17 PM	#13
Adze Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 321	Scrappy-doo got it right. What if an equal number of drivers who weren't in fatal crashes were tested, would we find the use of cannabis has soared to 20% among them? What would that prove? Only the weak minded are persuaded by such statistical arguments.
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08-27-2015, 09:37 PM	#14
Crusader Rabbit Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,653	After medical marijuana use was approved in Montana and Colorado, drunk driving accidents went down because more people chose to smoke pot instead.
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12-24-2018, 03:51 AM	#15
Splatoid Newbie Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Southern Washington State Posts: 4	I know for a fact how much more dangerous I was while drinking than when smoking pot. I cant say I have never been enough to not drive safely.I can remember an indecent where My bud turned me on to just one tiny hit and I thought stingy bastard. And got in my car and couldn't find third gear on my three speed Valiant.and got lost on the curve heading into town in the country on a road I drove on every day. But it was never as bad when I was drunk and i had to cover one eye to see only one car coming at me. And I still saw double. But the stats that are thrown about are crap. Kaiser is making me take drug test's to be able to keep getting Oxy. I take about one every 3 days for about 7 years now. If they find marijuana in my system they cut me off. But drinking alcohol would be alright.Bastards!!!
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12-24-2018, 08:23 AM	#16
JustSumTomatoes Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 916	How many people crash while high as opposed to wreck while dead sober? You probably shouldn't drive while on anything but those statistics on pot related crashes seem a bit stretched.
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12-24-2018, 10:42 AM	#17
yesum IC Mag Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 3,713	You should not be high and driving no matter what, but this study does little to make a case against pot. No idea how much thc in the people and the other drugs involved. Propaganda again. I will drive after the initial heavier buzz subsides, but even then rarely do. After an hour I am not very high no matter what I smoked. For me pot does not make me less aware or mess with reactions but does tend to promote daydreaming which is not good, like focusing on something interesting I see rather than the road. Alcohol messes with reactions, coordination and causes a lack of fear, all bad news. Doing concentrates and edibles is something else again. I could see a problem there.
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12-24-2018, 10:53 PM	#18
Teddybrae Irresponsible Hermit Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Latitude 25 S Altitude 300 Meters. Posts: 928	How does the quote go? Is it: "Damn Lies and Statistics"? __________________ "Life is ... a Continuum ... with no Beginning and no End. It is not going Somewhere ... it is always Here." Osho “The whole modern conception of the world is founded on the illusion that the so-called laws of nature are the explanations of natural phenomena.” “… even when all possible scientific questions had been answered the problems of life would remain completely untouched” (Wittgenstein)
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12-25-2018, 06:24 AM	#19
Douglas.Curtis Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Back in Colorado! Yaay! Posts: 3,696	How many of these crashes were from out of state drivers trying edibles for the first time? How many were in-state drivers trying edibles for the first time? Prohibition ripples are freaking stupid. Stifling information is dangerous and has caused a huge backlash in society. __________________ Tending Your Reservoir for a Full pH Swing and Cleaner Cannabis (A Healthier Approach to Hydroponic Cannabis) DIY STS Mixing/Using Guide for Feminized Pollen/Seeds Have DIY LED Info? I'm building a resource thread!
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