Originally Posted by shaggyballs
Only an LP will be able to sell the product to the public. No craft or home grows allowed. Considering the ongoing lawsuits about contaminated product by patients and the amount of recalls as well as a lack in quality products, it seems absurd that this model would prove successful.
This is misinformation. LPs are licensed federally to sell directly to medical patients under the ACMPR. Recreational is handled differently and is on a province by province basis.
Some LPs are expected to be licensed for sale of Rec weed in Alberta and Manitoba. Whether that will prove to be the case in Ontario is not yet known but is expected news next week. Put simply: Ontario is where the money is
. At 14.4 million people, if Ontario was a US state? It would be the fifth largest (Only Cali, Texas, Florida and NY State are bigger than Ontario). So that's major dollars on the table and it is expected in this new plot-twist that all private industry will be able to own and operate retail pot (that they must buy from the Province of Ontario's LCBO division acting as sole distributor). I expect the LPs will be heavily
investing in owning/operating retail stores. This is welcomed -- extremely welcomed
-- news. The details on this new development are expected to be released on Tuesday, July 31, 2018.
The LPs have massive
capital at their disposal. It's in the billions
of dollars. They have been pouring it all in to get ready for recreational sales. Medical has always merely just been a smokescreen for the LPs so that they can gear up for recreational weed. The strains they will be able to offer for sale in October 2018 have expanded from those they were allowed to grow for medical use by literally about 1,000 times the strains previously permitted, so we have no idea what they will be selling in October. If you can buy a seed or a clone somewhere, anywhere in the world? It can be sold in Canada as rec weed on October 17, 2018. (Note
: That was not the law under the ACMPR, which restricted the available strains for a number of ostensible reasons, all of which were requested by the LPs themselves as a form of IP protection for the strains they were attempting to exclusively license for rec purposes. Anyway - all of that cloak 'n dagger strain restriction stuff is gone now, as is all IP protection for strains developed prior to October 2018).
My guess though is that it will be pretty damned good weed for Agribusiness. Top shelf connoisseur weed? Not from the warehouse grows, no. But licensed micro growers ARE allowed to participate in the market. They can sell to an LP, who can in turn sell to a distributor (the provincial Government in every case in Canada, regardless of the province). So craft cannabis will come in via that route. I expected the top shelf weed there to be as good as any other AAAAA, though expensive as hell.
There were a couple of product recalls for mould contamination among the tens of thousands of lots that were tested by government labs over the course of medical cannabis sales. This is a recall rate that is miniscule. We typically see higher recall rates in the food and beverage sector than has been the case with medical cannabis. Math is sometimes hard -- but that's not an excuse to not actually do it and get it right. So you are just wrong
about what you said about "massive recalls" -- and not just a little bit wrong, ok?
As for your comments that there is no home growing, that's just wrong. The Cannabis Act
permits 4 plants per residential dwelling, inside or out. There is no plant height restriction and no restriction on the amount of weed you can harvest or keep at your home. None. ZERO weight restrictions.
Two provinces, Quebec and Manitoba, have purported to enact legislation that bans home growing. This legislation attempts to take away what the Federal government has given under the Cannabis Act's amendments to the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act (CDSA). Provincial acts which attempt to amend the CDSA are not constitutional and will be struck down when challenged as they offend the paramountcy rule of interpreting Canada's constitution. Unlike the United States, Canada has only one criminal law. Not 12, not 3, just one. And the only government which has jurisdiction over crime is the Federal government.
All that was decided in the late 19th century in relation to the prohibition of alcohol, by the way. The law surrounding it is 125 years old. Every lawyer in the land knows that legislation cannot survive a challenge. It's why the Prohibitionists unsuccessfully tried to amend the Cannabis Act
in the Senate to permit the provinces to ban home growing. Without that amendment, everybody knew Quebec and Manitoba's legislation would be struck down. Trudeau stuck to his guns and the hostile amendment to the Cannabis Act was not permitted.
So those prohibitionist laws will be struck down by the courts on first contact. That has not happened yet as the laws are not yet in effect until October 2018. But they will
be struck by the courts of Quebec and Manitoba, as surely as day follows night.
As far as being able to grow four plants, outside, without any height or weight restrictions? I don't about you -- but outside? That's somewhere between a shit ton
and a fuck load
of weed if you can manage to bring it in to harvest without mildew, mould, bud rot, or frost killing your harvest. I have no problems with a 4 plant personal limit. It's certainly not great for breeding, but for a personal grow of rec weed? It's fine. (Note
: Plant limits for medical patients are calculated differently and are not governed by the Cannabis Act
. Med patients can grow more than four).
As for possession limits outside the home? Walking around outside your home or in your car? You can carry 30 grams (a little more than an ounce). That's fine by me.
You can also give away your weed, 30 grams at a time. For those who grow outside and find themselves in November with way too much dried weed? My guess is that Xmas 2019 will be a record year for opening up ounces of weed under the tree, gifted by a friend or relative for Xmas.