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Old 06-25-2019, 08:24 AM #31
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Cherry bomb from 2017. Had a defficiency onset of flower but pulled through. Sugar leaves always pointed down through all of flowering. Really dense. Was only one i had though. Would grow again. Will grow again. Thanks Mr Greengenes n Gas.
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Superb variety, unfortunately for me I probably wouldn't have the opportunity to try it.


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Old 06-25-2019, 04:03 PM #33
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Angus,

You have now complained three times about where I started this thread.

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Old 06-25-2019, 09:05 PM #34
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because the Kerala was reproduced by open pollination
By how many specimen and was the environment the same as where this Kerala was coming from?
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IIRC, I began open pollinating CB at around F8. At that time, it was more like rogue-ing about 20%, but by F10-12 it was almost 'open'. Also, like to point out that when I began talking about it on OG in the early 2000's, the term open pollination was rarely (if ever) heard on a cannabis forum.

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tcherno, I'll inquire around maybe I can find someone over the pond there who has CB. I gave Verdant Green some, but I'm not sure if he plans to run and make seeds. You might try hitting him up.
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what I'm interested to do is draw people's attention to what a landrace actually is

a landrace forum seems like the right place to do that

Cherry Bomb isn't a landrace, because it's been maintained through selective methods that aren't used in traditional Afghan hash farming

hope that's clear

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What is called a landrace doesn't depend on traditional Afghan hash farming and what kind of standards they use in their farming methods.

Cherrybomb to me its more what we call a heirloom, although according to some that the lineage of Maui Wowie is Southern Mexican x Afghan and then backcrossed to the Mexican cultivar, so what is used in the beginning are two landrace cultivars.
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What is called a landrace doesn't depend on traditional Afghan hash farming and what kind of standards they use in their farming methods.

Cherrybomb to me its more what we call a heirloom, although according to some that the lineage of Maui Wowie is Southern Mexican x Afghan and then backcrossed to the Mexican cultivar, so what is used in the beginning are two landrace cultivars.
in the context of cannabis, traditional cultivation methods absolutely are a crucial point in the definition of what's a real landrace

also, your point about Cherry Bomb possibly being a hybrid is another key concern:

the provenance of these plants is very often either unknown or contested, and that applies to many alleged pure Afghans like Ortega etc.
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Merriam Webster has a very interesting definition of landrace:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Landrace


I would think Kerala is only landrace at its place of origin but in Northern England it would become a heirloom. Environment and photoperiods are different.

Open pollination not in its natural environment is not landrace anymore and becomes adapted to a new recreated artificial environment. Therefore a landrace becomes heirloom

If I bring a northern hemisphere genetic to the southern hemisphere, it certainly is not landrace anymore, it will have to adapt not only to a new environment but also to a different sun:
https://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lo...ne_record.html



I would suggest to change the name of the forum and make it Landraces and Heirlooms, this is how everybody will be happy



Mr Greengenes: it would be nice if there would be a world distributor of your genetics, so people outside of USA could have a chance to try your Cherry Bomb.
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Old 06-26-2019, 11:09 AM #40
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in the context of cannabis, traditional cultivation methods absolutely are a crucial point in the definition of what's a real landrace

also, your point about Cherry Bomb possibly being a hybrid is another key concern:

the provenance of these plants is very often either unknown or contested, and that applies to many alleged pure Afghans like Ortega etc.
Here in Europe we have landraces too, fully adapted to the environment.Hungary is a good example, but what funkyhorse above wrote, when you cultivate those cultivars in the UK or in Spain, its not a landrace anymore, because the environment is different.To preserve a landrace, you'll need at least an acre to preserve all the traits.
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