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Old 01-15-2010, 01:40 PM #11
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First official update :)

DAY 27

Plant Stage: Flower (Day 1)
Light Cycle: 12/12
Light: 250w HPS (33,000 Lumens)
Current Medium:
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Current Nutrients: Schultz 10-15-10 Every other watering @ full strength
Strain: Various Apollo11 Crosses


So its time for my first official update. After realizing just how big a 3gal grow bag is, I decided against transplanting all 14 of them. I decided to bust out my 30x jewelers loupe and try to catch some preflowers. Im not much on identifying male preflowers, but I sure did see little white hairs popping out of tiny calyxes on 3 of the plants. As far as I know, that means female.

So what I ended up doing was transplanting just those 3 into the 3 gal grow bags. The rest I watered well and propped them up along side the bigger bags. All 14 plants are now under my 250w HPS and its set to 12/12. I will consider today Day 1 of flowering.

I began by mixing up my soil and popping the first hopeful girl out of her 6" pot. It was obvious she was ready...



After pulling her roots apart a bit, transplanting and doing the same to the other 2, I ended up here...



And the rest of the family joins in. 3 in 3gal grow bags, 6 in 6" pots, and 5 in 16oz Cups...



Here is a shot with the flash on to show color. The poor suckers in the middle still stuck in 16oz cups are not looking great, but they're alive and growing. Some discoloration for sure, but the rest are doing great...



And that's all for now. I will be popping in the closet a couple times a day to search for signs of sex. As soon as I am sure on females I will put them in 3gal grow bags and begin cloning. Ill probably take 2 off each female for now and watch how they finish. I will bring 1 or 2 males back into veg and probably top them. Then flower them with the best female cutting for some more seeds. Ill be doing this in my 150w HPS mini fridge aka "sexcab"



All feedback is always welcome. If its rude it better be constructive, otherwise no trolls allowed Thanks for the interest guys, should be a fun ride! Gonna be a jungle in there soon


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Old 01-15-2010, 03:35 PM #12
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those are looking real nice. i run 2 plants at a time under the 250 with about the same foot print, what are you thinking? why not a 2' flouro instead of all the compacts?
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those are looking real nice. i run 2 plants at a time under the 250 with about the same foot print, what are you thinking? why not a 2' flouro instead of all the compacts?

Yeah I am only doing this many right now in hopes of getting 7 females or so to chose from. That way I can pick the best of the 6 for moms and not just take what I got. Im hoping to get 2 moms that have clear differences.

As far as the 2' flouro, I just cant find one that puts out very many lumens. The ones that come close to CFLs are waaaay too expensive. I just had things rigged up this round. Now that everything iss of the veg shelf, I will get to work on setting it up a little better. Those 42w CFLs put out 2800 lumens, which is 800 lumens higher than horticultural grade 2' flouro tubes. I will only have 4 42w CFLs when its finished. Should be plenty. 1 for the moms, 1 for the clones, and 2 for the plants in veg.



Well, the timer worked because the light was off today when I got up, so thats always good I will check every day and post updates as soon as I find more females. Im thinking that eventually, 3 girls scrogged and in the 3gal grow bags will be perfect. That way I can keep the grow bags in 3gal buckets and never have to move them to water. Three 3gal buckets fit nicely in there. I also have 3 empty 6" pots now, so Ill transplant the 3 best looking plants that are currently in 16oz cups into those 6" pots tonight.

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Old 01-16-2010, 03:21 AM #14
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very nice work man, doing great
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Old 01-16-2010, 12:24 PM #15
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hey dude, great grow...nobody's gonna come in here and demand an apology cos you aint got bells n whistles on your lamos n fans with co2 tanks..

Watch your light doesnt weld the contacts in the timer shut, that creates a fire risk...i know its only a 250 but the timer is not designed to take the load of a firing HID/ballast.

looks great so far though man!!

edit:also, before ya repot, give the plant in question a watering before hand, this stops them feelin the transplant, an sets them up for the root explosion.
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DAY 34

Plant Stage: Flower (Day 7)
Light Cycle: 12/12
Light: 250w HPS (33,000 Lumens)
Current Medium:
MG Organic + Perlite + Bone Meal
Current Nutrients: Schultz 10-15-10 Every other watering @ full strength
Strain: Various Apollo11 Crosses


Well I have some good news and some inevitably horrible news. The good news is that my female to male ratio is outstanding! Out of 14 seeds I ended up with 9 females and 5 males!! The bad news is that the reality of our situation is really starting to set in. In a few months I will officially be a dad for the first time, and the risks involved with my beloved hobby arent worth taking anymore :(

So even though I planned, demolished, rebuild, spent, spent and spent some more, I will have to finish this run and let it end there. I had so many great plans for my closet, and I really dont know what I was thinking. As demanding as this hobby can be sometimes, it will be a plus freeing up more time to spend with my son.

So now that the bad news is over, lets press on! I decided to make this my last run the other day, so I have no reason to keep any males at this point. I was graced with about 50 more beans from the same genetic pool I am growing now, so instead of pollinating Id like to make my last run 100% sensimilla.


Here is the last shot of all 14 plants under the 250w HPS. At this point I was only certain about 1 male and 4 females. Within 4 days after this, all plants had shown sex. 7 days under 12/12 and all have shown sex, not too bad if you ask me



The growth rate of this strain is crazy! No matter how close I kept the lights they would just explode with growth every day. The ones that were kept in small containers look a bit more stretched, but overall they all look damn tall for how young they are. The tallest was 10.5 inches when first put into flower 7 days ago, and it now stands a whopping 25" tall!!


2 of my males were very large as well, one standing 17" and the other 18.5" when I chopped them. Here is a shot of all the males (in back) and the one female that happened to be the only plant that endured the 16oz cup this whole time.



My original plan was to grow out he 8 healthy females and pitch the candy cane looking female, but my wife wouldn't let me (I know, shes the greatest!) I ended up plucking off the bottom 2 sets of fan leaves and burying it 4 inches deeper to promote new root growth. It had a hard time standing up for the first night, but by the time it had a few hours of light on it, it was straight as an arrow!


Here are the 9 wonderful ladies I am left with. 5 in the back row, 4 up front. The white hairs on the girls in the back row are really taking off. The 4 up front all spent a long time in 16oz cups so there are white hairs, but only on the top 2 nodes.

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That is it for now. These 3gal grow bags are absolutely amazing, and I would definitely recommend them for anyone who has a limited footprint to grow in, but has some play with height. All my tall ladies are on the outside with the shorter ones int he middle as of now. If the short ones dont start catching up It will be extremely difficult to get good light to each plant without rotating them.

If I were going to continue this op, I would invest in a screen and scrog the hell out of them, but I dont want to invest another dollar if I can help it. Any and all suggestions or comments always welcome, thaks for chillin in my closet with me

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Old 01-23-2010, 01:36 AM #17
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Looking good KB! You've put time into it, money into it, and I'm sure lots of thought. It definitely sucks that you can only go one run with this setup but at least you've got your head on straight. I'm sure this one harvest will be your biggest and best to date and hopefully an awesome memory to tide you over for the next 18 years until you can get it going again, haha!

Good luck man, I'll be keeping up with this one. I'm most interested to see if you can get several low odor girls this run or if your lone female from the previous grow was just an anomaly. Keep us updated on that



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Old 01-23-2010, 02:26 AM #18
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Looking good KB! You've put time into it, money into it, and I'm sure lots of thought. It definitely sucks that you can only go one run with this setup but at least you've got your head on straight. I'm sure this one harvest will be your biggest and best to date and hopefully an awesome memory to tide you over for the next 18 years until you can get it going again, haha!

Good luck man, I'll be keeping up with this one. I'm most interested to see if you can get several low odor girls this run or if your lone female from the previous grow was just an anomaly. Keep us updated on that



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Hey JPG thanks for swinging by!!

Yeah I know for sure no matter how much bud I get, it wont hold me over for 18 years. But youre right the memory will be nice! I had vegged these for almost 4 weeks just in case I only got 3-4 females. I figured they would get nice & tall, but I never thought I would get 9!! It will be interesting to see how well I can fit these in there as they get bigger.

As far as the odor goes, so far the stinkiest time was about 3 weeks into veg. I had no fan in the closet and no way for air to escape. The humidity would build up and when you would walk down the hall you could smell a distinct funky plant smell.

Now that they are a week into flowering, I can hardly smell them when I open the closet door. Its the strangest thing, and I still dont even have my fan hooked up pulling air out haha! If you run the stalk or a leaf though, the smell is quite distinct. Its actually much more skunky than I remember, but Im sure that will change as they continue to flower.

Ill probably wait a week or so for a picture update, and hopefully by then Ill have some nice clusters of white hairs on the top few nodes of each. I really think at least 60% of these are going to look just like the one I grew before, just taller. And Im giving more and more thought to rigging up my 150w HPS right next to the 250w, what do you guys think?


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It looks like your space is big enough to handle more light and it sounds like you've got ample ventilation so why not add the 150 watt light? It only adds potential for a larger harvest. I think you could get close to 1gram/watt with your setup dialed in so 150 more watts is a potential 150 more grams. Take pictures, whatever you do!! Haha haha



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sup kolor, chopped my plant, will be posting up pix 2nite! =] (85 grams wet weight lmao)
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