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Old 02-10-2019, 08:51 PM #21
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From experience and nothing I’ve read when I use pure Mykos and nothing else my plants are way more resistant to bugs and stress compared to when I use a myco supplement that has a wide variety of bacteria
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The only known mycorrhizae which creates a symbiotic relationship with cannabis is Glomus Intraradices, or Rhizophagus Intraradices, or Glomus Mossae(sp?)? There was a big naming change a short while back and I see a lot of confusion, including my own. lol
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The only known mycorrhizae which creates a symbiotic relationship with cannabis is Glomus Intraradices. Up until recently it was called Rhizophagus Intraradices.
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The only known mycorrhizae which creates a symbiotic relationship with cannabis is Glomus Intraradices. Up until recently it was called Rhizophagus Intraradices.
Thats the mycorrhizae that xtreme gardening uses in mykos. I knew there was something special about this stuff
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Shaping Fire Podcast #21
Teaming with Microbes and Fungi for Thriving Cannabis with Jeff Lowenfels
Jeff lays it down pretty well. He also mentions his editor having to change every instance of Mossae(sp?) in his books, and change it out with Glomus. (Edit: Had this wrong, my apologies)

Not sure if the podcast/youtube times match up to the download, but the juicy bit is at 40:50. (edit: ok, so he doesn't actually get to the info until 44:50. lol)
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How I understand it there is according to current scientific research indeed only one mycorrhizae that creates an interesting symbiotic relationship with Cannabis: Glomus Intraradices (aka Rhizophagus Intraradices).

There are several other mycorrhizae which create a symbiotic relationship, but current research shows that these aren't all interesting and might even be detrimental.

Also don't confuse endophytes with endomycorrhizae.

Here is a link to an interesting article
https://groweriq.ca/2018/11/29/livin...nnabis-growth/

And a link to the scientific research that is mentionned in the above article about Glomus Mosseae. Which shows that G. Mosseae might be detrimental for Cannabis.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...45653504009634

This doesn't proof that only Glomus Intraradices (aka Rhizophagus Intraradices) is the only interesting mycorrhizae. Maybe future research shows that more mycorrhizae form an interesting symbiotic relationship with Cannabis. And maybe that future research shows that G. Mosseae might be usefull for the uptake of micronutrients.

Edit: Glomus Intraradices is indeed the old name.
Recent molecular analysis of Ribosomal DNA suggested that Glomus Intraradices is not in fact in the genus Glomus at all, and should be renamed Rhizophagus Intraradices.
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Shaping Fire Podcast #21
Teaming with Microbes and Fungi for Thriving Cannabis with Jeff Lowenfels
Jeff lays it down pretty well. He also mentions his editor having to change every instance of Mossae(sp?) in his books, and change it out with Glomus. (Edit: Had this wrong, my apologies)

Not sure if the podcast/youtube times match up to the download, but the juicy bit is at 40:50. (edit: ok, so he doesn't actually get to the info until 44:50. lol)
Interesting but not sure I buy it. Mosseae and Intraradices are 2 different things and mosseae hasn't been upgraded to Intraradices that I've seen. Glomus Intraradices was upgraded to Rhizophagus irregularis though. Should be easy enough to prove or disprove. Give one clone Intraradices and another myco without it and see if there's a boost in root growth.
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Interesting but not sure I buy it. Mosseae and Intraradices are 2 different things and mosseae hasn't been upgraded to Intraradices that I've seen. Glomus Intraradices was upgraded to Rhizophagus irregularis though. Should be easy enough to prove or disprove. Give one clone Intraradices and another myco without it and see if there's a boost in root growth.
Cvh has the answer, the mention of mosseae was a mistake by Jeff or I heard him wrong.. Thank you Cvh for clearing that up.
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Very interesting discussion. You often see soil testing mentioned as part of the living soil philosophy. But how many are testing for the presence of these beneficial mycorrhizae, which is probably as important as the presence of elements that provide the nutrients?
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Cvh has the answer, the mention of mosseae was a mistake by Jeff or I heard him wrong.. Thank you Cvh for clearing that up.
Ah ok. Maybe he just made a mistake. Anyone know of a myco product without Intraradices?
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