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Old 10-15-2018, 04:50 AM #131
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In attempting to undo the knots of plants caused by the wind, it turns out the breakage was double the ones that were easy to find. It took one of the biggest stalks of Bhutanese. In terms of yield, it looks like this plant is very good. There is some fluff, but it has a satisfying cola plus about ten sub-branches with good tops. It was the last to start ripening, but at least it picked up a bit of the Mekong type scent, so, that stuff might be ok.


The rest of everything just looks like a patch of rotor wash.


Almost all of the growth leaves are gone and so plant cycles are over, regardless of trichome color, so we have to ignore that. Due to force of circumstances, I probably have to cut two plants every two days in a way that is more like saving surviving pieces from death and destruction.


If I was going to respond to the gales ahead of time, there needs to not be twenty plants rigged up with twine like a spider web. That is too major of a deal to move quickly. We need to grow fewer for multiple reasons. Start to emphasize yield and heed the caterpillars and storms. Maybe run some autos in the spring since they would be done before crowding becomes an issue.


It would be nice to do this some other way but, it's pretty much guerilla growing close to home. I've pretty successfully prevented animal incursions but that's about it.
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Old 10-17-2018, 05:38 AM #132
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The only drawback to the Bhutanese is it seems to have weak stems.


So the first Nemesis that got broken still looks ok. But this is because I was able to stake it. The ten or so branches that have been broken since then I just cut off, but along with those were other pieces that just got folded or crimped.


That really big Bhutanese had four tops, so I cut the broken one, and there was another one that got folded over. With this and a few other pieces, I attempted to splint them, but, I didn't do very good at that. So the top fell over again and expired rapidly, faster than the small branch that did the same thing. Overnight it went from salvageable to brownish, yellow, and shrunken. I call that dead. I don't think you can prop it up any more and bring it back. So I cut that one too. But I would say other strains that fold do not necessarily die, or don't die that fast, so, although anything could get bent by the wind, the Bhutanese may be a little weak in surviving it.


Cooler night temps slapped some purple to Krystalica.


Now that we're down to the appropriate number of plants for the space, there is nothing left intact. Closest thing is one Nemesis with 30% of the tops gouged out from caterpillars. Everything else is broken and/or chewed up more. So I don't have a single good looking plant. So in the end, running twice too many plants only brings about as much as the right number, if they were intact. Instead of extra harvest--arguably, from now forward--we got like a 50% bonus of early samples.


Mid-October does look like finishing time for most of it; with the Bhutanese, I would be prone to say end of the month. It doesn't seem equatorial like it would take forever at all. At least in form and appearance, this one totally has the thin/pinnate/foxtailish SE Asian style, but, at least with the sun, done within 2-3 weeks of others. November seems neither desirable, nor like it would keep going that long.


Even in decent containers, form wise, I cannot really tell a difference between the Thai and the indica hybrids. That may seem sketchy, but, at least off the samples I get no indica buzz.


I cannot find my nice Italian jar and already filled two other ones and this is a totally different issue related to too many blankets.
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Old 10-19-2018, 06:34 AM #133
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I was going to bug someone about maybe whether they didn't rinse out the detergent the last time after using a jar.


Instead I went back and looked it up and it says main flavor to Bhutanese is lemon mint. So I guess that's supposed to be there. It was not noticeable on the plant itself or at first but, after a few days and getting sealed, it's there.


I found that big Italian one and the Nemesis filled it and kept going.


I took a few small bits of Krystalica and they say this may be strawberry and I think so, and, here again, only after drying. From trying a few puffs, it could legitimately be "relaxing sativa", kind of a toned-down Sexbud. It lacks that unique grapefruit seed oil brain polish, but it carries something of the muscle relaxer. Nothing spacey or swoopy. Lucid. This probably will turn out to be one of the nice mediums that's not really stimulating or narcotic.


The Nemesis conformed perfectly well to the growth plan, and that tree is the definition of something that did not. I figured it was a male for being so tall and it just kept going until I broke the root, and the result is, it made a candelabra shape, six feet off the ground. So its height went to total waste. You could easily make one shorter yield more.
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Old 10-21-2018, 05:29 AM #134
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In breaking up the tree branches, Krystalica really has no berry scent upon the plant, I would call it closer to Afghan. I'm not that good with the scents, there may be better names, but so far I think there is an "earthy musky" SE Asian that's not exactly rubber, but oily and roasted, and on the other side of the spectrum is an "earthy musky" Afghan that's a bit more disgusting and closer to vomit. Maybe someone has better words for these, but, as a broad generalization, that's how it seems to me.


Using special perceptual methods, I was able to identify the thing that came with it as Himalayan. She seems really close to her mom. The Nemesis seems close to her mom too, even with the pretty bluish green tint, but the OE might have made her buds a bit fluffier. So far the Himalayan is a straight copy with a vague floral scent and a certain kind of pristine beauty when first picked. Doesn't really look special when dried, and of course most cannabis flowers are pretty...maybe this one is worth fresh cut photos. It's what I would want if there was such a thing as "florist of weed".


Maybe someday that can be an industry for excess cannabis.


So far it's the one I would want to keep for indica effect. The other night I had a bowl of the commercial hydro indica and got the nod offs really bad. Managed to shake it and smoked Bhutanese and was not tired at all. Like the early Thai it said "I need a couple weeks to get more potent". The run should probably be something like four Himalayas and about eight sativas.


I have mostly been smoking early Thai rather than hydro by preference. It added "something" to the SE Asian scent, not sure what. Although I hope the later batches get better, strangely, although the bud did come out with more of an indica style mass, this is not even as stony as the Mekong. It's going in a good direction but we'll have to see if it gets there. These were stressed plants. I'd still rather have this off peak than the same presumably cloned indoor stuff.
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Old 10-22-2018, 11:41 PM #135
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Going to take the Nemesis tomorrow at least the two broken ones. They're interesting because one was broken at the base over a month ago and was staked, and the other is topless--it's just a base with a couple of bottom branches which happen to be good because the plant was hand fashioned and because it is Nemesis. Neither one of them is stressed. Got mangled and kept right on going.


One of the Bhutanese simply did not dominate and stayed about the size of the hybrids, but it too has foxtailed but clumpy buds, just like in their picture. So two of them have turned out this way and the third that's wispy might have seeds.


Things dry fast here and mostly I have been packing it away and if I can keep my fingers out of it maybe some of it will actually cure.
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Old 11-03-2018, 04:46 PM #136
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Everyone is finished.


I snagged a few quick dry bits of newer ones. I went to try some Krystalica and it didn't take much since I got high before I hit it.


We'll have to check back with that one because I think there has to be some kind of rule that says you have to take the toke before you get the effect.


So this Bhutanese lemon grass. Here we seem to have one to the head with little to no body effect. It doesn't have Sexbud's brain polish, so, it is probably a little more like what I am used to as cannabis. I would not be surprised if the heavier pieces with a better cure might be disorienting or flighty. It doesn't seem to have the "centered-ness" of Orient Express; perhaps it is more ethereal. Very nice actually.
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Old 11-23-2018, 10:28 PM #137
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So far I have personally just been working on the lower grades of stuff.

In terms of yield, even with the major losses, it's more than last year. We got a gallon of Krystalica. This is determined by the new "unit", which is a lidded pitcher lined with parchment. Seems to work fine. That turns out to be the choice of my indica-favoring companions. It's a bit smelly, they tried to call it skunk, due to a limited vocabulary about these things. You and I know it's not, it does have some kind of a scent, which, I could agree that when you break it up might be strawberry.

It is an indica hybrid and you can definitely tell, if you were trying to get pure sativa, this is not it. But to me at least it does not have the more Afghani style of purely sinking or very heavy. It is rather sedative, and perhaps borderline drowsy, but I would have to say it's solidly relaxing without being heavily stoned.

I mean, it's not two toke weed in the sense of hit it and you're gone, but usually by the time I get two or three my hands just stop moving the bowl around. It's potently calming with enough sativa that doesn't really shine on its own, but I think centers it more towards the shoulders and up.

So far I have not been particularly impressed by the mixed plants. They lost their identity. Nemesis was a ride like a limousine or a hot air balloon or something I've never been on, and I haven't found that. The Himalayan was a bit heavier and blissful and that seems to be thinned out. Again, this is kind of going by scraps, I tried to split out some of the better pieces to give them a long cure. If it still turns out to be a pile of somewhat bland and generic weed, then that's what happens.

I believe Nemesis probably is a good breeding stock in that it will retain a condensed indica format of growing, which has no problem letting some sativa effect into its flowers. I'm just not convinced OE is an especially good thing to put into it. Probably something else from around India or Nepal or Bhutan would go better.

I might give a nod towards considering the Bhutanese for a stable strain. It works on a fast run, don't need to start it until June and it will still make a large, fairly generous beast of a plant. It doesn't call for an eonic flowering period, 2-3 weeks additional is probably good. Directly in ground, it would probably survive well into November and start risking frost here, but the container version will be reaching its end around the beginning of the month.

It's a light feeling without being spacey or going insane. If I wanted the "challenge my functions" kind of weed, this is not it. So maybe similar to OE but instead of being "centered" it's more "evenly distributed". This is mostly judging by a quick dried bag of the wispy plant.

I guess in terms of trying new strains, to most people, Thai is acceptable and Krystalica is preferred. Bhutanese is of no interest if pot=indica in someone's apetite. I like it. Smoke a little more and it's slightly creeper or slow wave and more high than heavy.
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Out of papers and a broken bong

In trying to evaluate weeds, I guess I become a toke-ist.

What I mean by that is, in the case of resin gobbage, or a too tight joint, if the hit is choked and you have to struggle to get it, you can't just smoke more or something, you just don't really get the same high at all.

Having been broke for a few years, all the change I could scrape has gone into acquiring these seeds. Yeah, sad to say, I can't even get some rolling papers. And my bowls are so old as to be nothing but like a bag of wet cement.

We found a fast, effective cleaner is to boil them along with concentrated dish detergent. But who wants to do that whenever you go to light up. You just want to clear the ash and repack.

My personal favorite method was a steamroller, but not packing it, using it as a joint holder. Loved that thing. Knocked it off the table and it made the prettiest shattering sound I ever heard, kind of like flute music mixed with wind chimes.

So, I'm in not position to replace it. However, a while back, I think someone gave us a glass bong. Just medium size, perfect to hold in one hand, and the bottom is very thick, well-weighted, it feels really nice, great furniture.

But I don't personally care for bongs that much, because I am a toke-ist, and the surface tension of the water completely governs how you can draw.

It had one of those bowls you withdraw, on a tube. And since the bong is not very big, the tube was sort of small. So it gobs up relatively easily and of course you just ram wire through it. Over time the situation deteriorates until you snap half the tube off.

And that tube was small and thin, because it was in a sleeve. So the sleeve is fine, and once you get rid of the bowl and the water, then the bong is great, pretty close to a steamroller.

Being old school, we still had a few of those brass pieces laying around. And you ram wire through brass pieces all the time because they don't snap like glass. This situation also degrades over time, and it can get vulcanized so much that it crumbles. So I unscrewed the brass bowl and stuck it into the bong's opening. The resin in the sleeve seats it and it runs like a racehorse. Still out of papers though. It's a double improvement on both the originals anyway.
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