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Old 01-10-2019, 10:11 PM #11
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I don't know what your definition of "dirt cheap" is, but dyna-gro foilage pro is about as easy as it gets, and has been great for everything I've grown from ganja, to peppers, and herbs.

The only thing that's still kicking my ass are g'damn tomatoes....

Regardless, the stuff is a n00b's dream, and an old hands secret imo.
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Old 01-10-2019, 11:00 PM #12
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I don't use store bought urea, but I use pee. I dilute it 1:10. Has always performed for me just as well as any nutrient I have purchased. If you're interested check out my grow diary and read what klompen wrote he seems to really have it down.
O my God. That's great. If only i could source thousands of gallons of urine.
Every time my wife yells at me for pissing in the rose bushes, i tell her I'm just giving them a N boost. I have to show her your diary. I guess urea fertalizer is the next best thing since i can't source 1,000s of gallons of urine.

Growcephus: my definition of dirt cheap are dry ferts not specific to cannabis. Like growmore, jacks, earth juice sea blast.
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Old 01-11-2019, 12:10 AM #13
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Yeah in moderation your helping those roses! haha, but whats your current setup man?
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A friend who is from a big grower family swears by Age Old. It's liquid, not powder, but is pretty cheap, and seems like it may fit the bill for you.
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urea fertilizer is a man made organic chemical, synthesized from inorganic components ammonium hydroxide and liquid carbon dioxide..

mind blowing for sure.
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Old 01-11-2019, 03:28 PM #16
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I'm not looking for organic. Not looking for synthetic. I'm looking for a synthetic that has a good bit of organic N in it and performs allot like an organic.

Maybe i should suck it up and use the urea formula.
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I'm thinking urea n is closer to organic n then nitrate or amonical.
Someone has to have an opinion on this.
Bacteria decompose organic inputs to release the same ions to the plant synthetic fertilizers do when added to water. Plants use ammonia (NH3), Ammonium (NH4) and nitrate, urea is broken down into all 3.
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Old 01-11-2019, 03:52 PM #17
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4-26-26 or 16-16-16, Crushn?
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I know nothing about synthetics that have organics in it that act like organics when applied, but someone already mentioned above the absolute best 1-part cannabis nutrient formula: Dyna-Gro Foliage Pro. You can always add organics to your soil mix, or apply a good tea from time to time, I guess? I don't know, because I've never legitimately seen a good reason to use organics for anything, and therefore I just base my decisions on science.

I have been on Maxibloom for far too long now, and I have decided to go back to Foliage Pro. Just got some in the mail yesterday, ready for my next garden I'm setting up soon. Stuff is the bomb.
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Old 01-12-2019, 03:51 AM #19
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4-26-26 or 16-16-16, Crushn?
The 16-16-16. I think I'm going to either stick to the grow more or try a jacks product. Jacks professional 20-20-20 is 38$ locally for 25lbs.. Grow more seagrow is 70$ for 25lbs. I considered using earth juice seablast but all the micros that are edta in the grow more are just sulfates in the seablast.

I was given 100 lbs of earth juice seablast for free a while back... A week into trying it, a heatwave hit. i got some burn so i stopped using it after a week. It was 105f + with no humidity. The plants being fed growmore seagrow didn't get burned. Probably more of a salt burn then nitrogin source related.
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Yeah I think if you stick with the grow more the worst is your salinity goes up a little bit. Urea salt index can be see high as ~75, whereas the blood meal is pretty negligible. Probably why you're able to feed so often. Sticking with the urea may force you to flush a couple more times or just water without feeding here and there. Have you tried the new formulation yet?

Edit: I see you have
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