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Old 05-03-2018, 08:31 PM #71
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I assume you're aware that there's a number of us who don't put pics of our grows on our pages for a number of reasons, despite some of us growing for decades; slow connection speeds, lack of technology in the way of tools, and security (especially for those who have a higher profile in other aspects of their lives).

Just a point of balance in re. to assumptions.

Signed, a successful commercial grower for decades...
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Old 05-03-2018, 08:34 PM #72
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By the way, I believe it was -this- thread that led me to acquire Bio-Ag Ful-Power and trade out my previous use of AN Grandma Engy's H2 (old stash predating the discontinuation of the product), and Golden Goddess.

Time may tell if this was a positive shift, however without distinct control groups, there are so many other variables it may be difficult to declare, "This is a result of -that-."
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I previously used it (various brands) on and off with coco and a little dissapointingly never saw any benefits as hard as I looked. Is it just me or has coco already got its cation exchange maxed out?

And fwiw the only really profound beneficial organic type additive I’ve observed with coco is seaweed during veg so far. Quite remarkable just how the plants shine with the most lucious , vigorus and aura shrouded leaf explosion.

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BioAg Ful-Power is 8% fulvic acid, Mr. Fulvic is 2%.
Ful-Power is 0.06% humic acid
Mr. Fulvic is 1.35% humic acid, 2.20% fulvic acid

I don't know where your numbers came from.

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Bill Farthing, once you can leave your biased liberal ideals at the door. I will explain to you why you are wrong at every level. Personnel beliefs of resources has nothing to do with their quality.
I have spent over 27 years in oil exploration industry. There is not a more organic source better than Leonardite, period. Until cars run on Butterfly pee , we have petroleum products .
In time other resources will be more efficient. I will welcome that time as well. I've spent my career making the industry less impactful on nature. I also served my country so any idiot can have freedom of speech. Glad to see all aspects of my life are bearing fruit. Peace
My signature to the left says "vote Libertarian". The assumptions spewing out of your cock holster are laughable. You served your country, so you automatically get a pass for mental illness these days and can spout any loudmouth opinion you like in public.

The cheap stuff from Leonardite is most often a result of strip mining. I am one of the most proactive people for industry and jobs. The burden of proof is on the mining industry to be a good steward to the environment.

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I also find it humorous that a person without a single grow in his albums is giving advice on nutrients. Leonardite is not a petroleum product either. It's completely decomposed vegetative matter in between two layers of clay. That remained untouched for 60 plus million years. It's not a precursor to anything but your ignorant opinion.
Humic acids are precursors of petrolum of coal. I don't need pictures to prove my self-worth to anyone. Fertilizer has been my career and I don't feel the need to swing my dick around to help my fragile ego like FarmerLion.

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Ful-Power is 0.06% humic acid
Mr. Fulvic is 1.35% humic acid, 2.20% fulvic acid

I don't know where your numbers came from.
You are mixing up different test methods.
Using the same method as Mr Fulvic, Ful-Power is indeed stronger.
The BioAg web site goes into much detail about it.
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Much of this clarification is helpful to folks like myself who for years simply "did what I did" with only basic understandings of what makes what more available, and my trying to get back to when my efforts were closer to on-the-money..

If we could avoid some of the sound of toxic ego-bumping, defensive reprisals, and more, we'd probably go further in our dialogues, and look less reprehensible to those who simply visit the threads for info or out of curiosity.

Thanks everyone for helping to further my outdated education re. cannabis growing, from a more scientific perspective than I previously employed. And thank you for the same, for new and up-coming cultivators of cannabis.
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You are mixing up different test methods.
Using the same method as Mr Fulvic, Ful-Power is indeed stronger.
The BioAg web site goes into much detail about it.
So this study is wrong based on how these 2 products are labeled?

https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/6831f...1006130249.pdf

They use the Lamar Standardized Method established in 2014 by AAPFCO and the IHSS:

https://www.agtonik.com/qualifying-characteristics
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So this study is wrong based on how these 2 products are labeled?

https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/6831f...1006130249.pdf
That is not a study, that is a misleading sales document from Agtonik.
Mr Fulvic is a relabeled Agtonik (Mineral Logic), btw. They are just a sales team.
It is the amino acids that are the most effective part of that product. Not really comparable to a pure fulvic like Ful-Power.
Ful-Power is made from a microbial process, not from fracking.

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