Originally Posted by BongFu
Yup people though are missing the point that Scotts are every bit as unethical and corrupt as Monsanto... For example...
What happened was that Scotts bought "Morning Song" wild bird seed in 2005. At the time is was bought, the company that had been operating Morning Song had been storing their seed in a manner where insects could get at it. They protected it from spoilage by using insecticides. This practice continued after the sale and it came to light in 2008.
They should not have done it, but they did. That's the company that Scotts bought. Management for the Morning Song division authorized it, and he was fired.
The Morning Song division was later sold by Scotts. They've been out of all of that for several years now.
Its clearly not a good thing and it was unlawful. But your attempt to portray that as some "corporate-wide" cultural practice particular to Scotts is bullshit though. All of this took place more than ten years ago, in another corporate division. The EPA found no systemic practices or comparable wide violations as part of Scotts general corporate practices. Clearly, Morning Song was a troubled brand -- with a troubled product and a troubled brand manager.
Look, if you have a twitch in your eye and a sneer on your face for anything that sounds like Big Business? I get it. But if you have such an outlook by default, there isn't anything I'm going to say that is going to change your mind about that. Most likely, anyways.
Conversely, if somebody comes across as the kind of guy who faults Big Business for being what it is -- and you dismiss them all as inherently corrupt and evil, I'm not inclined to be persuaded by points that you may otherwise have (and which may be very good
ones, viewed in isolation). Because while I'm not always sympathetic
to business, I'm not always dismissive
of their interests, either. I try and be pragmatic and avoid ideological or idealistic blinders. This world is a complicated place sometimes.
Most businesses employ people, feed families, and deliver products to us that generally work, cheaply. That's usually not a bad thing. Trying to judge it all as Good vs Evil
is a little simplistic and childish for me.
Scotts Miracle Gro is a big company which is now firmly entrenched in the cannabis home-growing hobby. You may like that; and you may not like that. Doesn't change anything. The points to take away is that:
1- their presence is not going to change anytime soon, and
2- it would be better if they have a longterm view of their interests (and ours), rather than an eye focused on quarterly results.
So far, their brand acquisitions and purchases have all been with a longterm view of the market. That's a good sign. If that should change, we can freak out then -- as opposed to now.