Eating cannabis; Pro's and Con's?

I have Hep C and have read conflicting posts as to whether it is healthy or not for Hep C patients to eat brownies or cookies. A good number of folks have posted and said that it was unhealthy, but have never been able to steer me to a report/study that proves or even states that as a fact. Sure could use some help in this matter as I would like to order some cookies from TY. Thanks in advance for taking the time to read and reply...

In comparrison to the other substances we take into our bodies from processed foods, prescription drugs, otc drugs..eating a brownie in my opinion shouldnt be a problem. Thats just my thoughts, I have had hep c for 14 yrs.

You make a sound point, however I have gone to great extremes to avoid those things that you mentioned if they are harmful to my liver. I would like to try some cookies or brownies, but do not want to if any harm can be done to my liver. Otherwise I will just continue to vape as I know that it does no harm. I have already gone through two separate bouts of esophageal varices which is the hemmoraging of the esophagus. 90% of the folks this afficts die by bleeding out. 95% of the survivors relapse and 99% of those folks die. I have been fortunate and for some reason have defied all odds. My doctors still haven't figured that one out, but who's complaining! Perhaps it was the last rites that were given to me on two separate occasions. I still struggle with brain encephalopathy, which is nothing more than "brain fog". I will driving down the road 5 miles from home and suddenly not have a clue as to where I am, but it goes away eventually. The beauty of it is that I seldom remember those incidents! Sorry to bore you with my trivial details, but perhaps now you can see why I am seeking the factual truth concerning this matter, rather than just opinions no matter how sound they are! Thanks for your response. I should have been a bit more clear in my question.

Someone told me i could help in this forum,so here i am...
I will be honest with you,nearly no one medical user would eat cannabis...most of all because they are ill yet,and eating mj could make the things worse.Take me for example,i took a couple of pills of marinol some time ago,a friend brought them to me,but i didn't really felt any good effect:i toke to help myself eating and to prevent and counter nausea attacks,wich are frequently associated to AZT (anti-retro-viral) therapyes in hiv and also in chemo treatments.Eating cannabis sometimes (often if the patient is a first timer...) takes you to paranoia and other not desiderable side effects such as nausea,general sickness...
I would reccomend any medical user like me to vaporize his stuff:it's the purest way actually to get buzzed and hungry with cannabis besides marinol and other thc based pills that besides don't work very well...
I started smoking mj before needing it to cure myself,but only now i can appreciate hthe benefits she can give you,altough i'll buy one day a vaporizer i still find a good old joint,with a little tobacco and some good herb,rolled with a slim rolling paper is always the best therapy assumption mode...at least i find joints to be more effective in stopping nausea (you don't have to wait for it to come up like when you it eat,you just light a joint,wait 5 minuts and stop the attack...) and at the same time great appetite stimulators wich is a good thing to many of those like me who substitutes some pills (anti-emetics pills,appetite pills,vitamines,riconsitution sutff...) with cannabis...

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Thanks for your reply, even though Im not the poster, I like to hear how things work for other people. When my liver has to process somethins it doesnt like, scrips ect... It lets me know with pain. I havent had any pain with eating, but all people and situations are different.

Quote<have Hep C and have read conflicting posts as to whether it is healthy or not for Hep C patients to eat brownies or cookies. A good number of folks have posted and said that it was unhealthy, but have never been able to steer me to a report/study that proves or even states that as a fact. Sure could use some help in this matter as I would like to order some cookies from TY. Thanks in advance for taking the time to read and reply...<Quote

Sorry,i read your post after replying the first time...you say you have Hep C,so let me tell me some things about it,as i know some people at the hospital where i go to do my check up for hiv...

1)Hep C is now near to be defeated.A succesful pattern of therapy were started using Interferone (a general potent anti-viral),and patients had to do 4 iniections a week.
Actually the therapy is Peg-Intron (an evolved Interferone fine-tuned for Hep C as well as B...) associated with another anti viral (ribavirin).The first type of therapy gave out a 30-40% success while the actual one is giving out 60% rates,and it's a great hope on the way to defeat Hep C.Talk to your doctor and try it,it's only an iniection a week and 4 pills a day for 6-12 motnhs and IT WORKS!!!

2)When you have Hep C the cells of your liver are inibhited from re-genreration,wich means necrosis,fibrosis may happen,having a good diet (no fryed food,no oil,wash all fruit-vegetables good NO ALCHOOL at all,it's poison for you!!!).
The better you eat,drink (water!),the better it is.
Also all drugs except cannabis are prohibited.Cannabis affects primarly your breath,but using coke,heroin,lsd,or other shit would put your liver under stress and force it to start produce little fibrosis wich would accumulate time by time...
Drinking alchool or not being Hep C postitive is the border line between having or not Cirrosis in the next 10-20 years....

So...first of all go speak to a doctor specialized in Hep C treatments and ask for Interferone And Ribavirin (he should 99.9% know about it as it is the unique therapy who successed in turning RNA+ in RNA negative) and start eating and drinkin' better,it's up to you how you will feel in a few years...
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my doctor

my doctor

Ineteferon has a limited success rate, approx 60%. It is also not an option after the start of fibrosis. Side effects include hair loss, extreme mood swings, and several others. Take too long to type. After treatment, If ineffective there are no other treatments that offer even close to the 60% success rate. Hep c effects millions of americans, many of which do not know they are effected. I wish my liver specialist was as optimistic as you.

P.S my doctor and I had a sit down and I was told if I was a canidate It would require daily injections.

As you wrote,according to researches,up to 60% of possibilities to turn RNA-...is always better than 50/50,if i were you at least i'd try...my friends used it for 6 months-1 year,and didn't have side effects named on the label like hair loss,probably tho only one side effect wich was very "present" was for all of my friends a "debilitation-tired" mood...

Again,the injiections with the actual theraphy are no more than 3 a week...i know it's not a "sure" therapy,but for sure if i were you i'd try it!I mean...even if it's only 60% of possibilities to heal try it!
It works better on some Hep C virus then others (there are various virus sub-classes in the Hep C),i highly reccomend at least to get informations about this therapy 'cause it's effective!!!!
Doesn' fit for all Hep C + but man,it works with most of them!!!!
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I have genotype 1a. It is the most prevelant and the most difficult to clear. I was put in a trial several years ago testing Interferon aka Intron A for 6 months with no success. I am currently in a trial comparing the use of pegylated interferon to colchicine for liver maintenance. I was randomly chosen to take the colchicine and have been doing for 2 years now. I am a patient of the Texas Liver Center and am fortunate to have one world's best looking after me. My doctor is somewhat hesitant to let me take peg along with Ribavirin because of my extremely low blood platelet count, varies from 70-90K, but that may be next once he hears back from Harvard with my biopsy results as I am at the mid point of this Co Pilot trial. I am on many meds to control varices, encephalapathy and for pain management. I have found that cannabis makes my day a littly more tolerable and I thank God for that.... Wisc2: The newest form of interferon is a once a week time released shot unlike the every other day shots that I had to take. Pegasus w/ Ribavirin seems to affect everyone a little different. I tolerated the Interferon and at the time it didn't seem to terrible because I knew that it gave me a chance to clear the virus. I did not really realize how crappy it made me feel until I was no longer taking it. But I know a guy who takes it with no problem other that a slightly uncomfortable night when he injects himself. You may want to rethink your decision and give it a shot. You can always cease taking it if you so desire. Just my $.02! Good luck....

Cannadicto: I would also like to thank you for taking the time to respond. I agree with all that you have said except I must respectfully disagree with your statement, " Hep C is now near defeated". I believe that you may be misinformed as the experts all agree that there will be at least 3 times as many deaths in 10 years in the US than there were last year. Granted, they have made great strides in treatment and the combo treatment has been somewhat successful in clearing non Genotype A. 60% or so and 40% Genotype A success rate just doesn't sound "near defeated" to me, but that may just be me and my 40% Genotype A success rate! The doctors at the Texas Liver Institute seem to think that there will eventually be a protease inhibitor that will address and cure Hep C.

I didn't mean to say that Inteferon and ribavirin will be THE therapy,but they are witouth any doubt a great step in Hep C treating,as it's true that before this one there was no therapy for Hep...i'm also so optimist beacause at the Infective Deseases check up center where i go i know a lot of people wich have/had Hep C and after therapy had theyr RNA turning negative...so,i don't want to give unreal illusions to those who are Hep C positive but have a genotipe/body wich won't react to the therapy...
I also agree with you about the therapy side effects:inteferon affects people in different ways:some are tired all the time and feel a great "down" takin' it,someone other seem not to have any side effect but usually platalet would decrease so even if you don't feel it when you stop interferon you can see the difference...
Good luck to you my friends,i was trying to give you some iformation about Hep C i knew 'cause i thought they were important for you,happy to see you both take care of your self .
I do also .
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Yo ucan always go to your local health food store and pick up some large empty capsules and make your own cannapills. They work great but the only drawback is - as with all edibles - that they take a long time to take effect and are easy to over do.

You might be couch bound for a while. I reccomend getting a vaporizer if you're worried about smoking.
HS

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Tinctures

Tinctures

Have any of you tried tinctures? If so, how did it work out. I believe that grain alcohol is used in making them. Anyone with liver disease should avoid alcohol at all costs, but I do believe that the small amount of alcohol in the caps is insignificant. I am just curious as to how effective they are.
HS, is that what you are referring to? Or is it something else? This inquiring mind would like to know....

Capsules

Capsules

No tinctures are good as are vegetable oils or bud butter (check out www.aamc.com for more info)

Capsules are simply empty gel capsules that you can fill with herb and then swallow. Unfortunately titration is harder to do then with smoking because you don't feel the effects for an hour or so and they last much longer. Usually it's more of a body effect but it varies with the strain, potencty etc.
HS

I discovered I have HCV about 8 yrs ago, most likely contracted 20 yrs ago. My liver is in decent shape and so far I've avoided the AMA approach and have been treating it w/ homeopathics.
I've given up alcohol and coffee, but not my weed! My ALT and AST aren't too drastic, but over the normal range. I get tested every 6 mo or so. The one time I wasn't smoking was a 6 mo. run where I had 2 normal readings!
Still, not enough to make me give THAT up!

Good for you Highlighter! Sounds like things aren't too bad for you. I believe that the 6 month period that you didn't smoke and tested normal was probably just a coincidence, otherwise my friend, I am not quite sure if you are being truthful or not. If you are still Hep C positive you will get worse with time and that is a fact. My numbers continued to decline for the first couple of years after being diagnosed before I rediscovered the positive effects that cannabis had for me. My numbers have continued to decline at the same rate since I started smoking again. If my numbers would go back to normal if I weren't smoking, I wouldn't think twice. I would give up cannabis in a second to get my life back on track with good health. Believe me, my friend, that is a no brainer. If what you suggest, in your case, is correct; perhaps you need to rethink your priorities in life... Not trying to be a dhead, just expressing my $.02! BTW, are you using milk thistle? It is a relatively inexpensive natural herb that acts as a liver cleanser and is quite beneficial. It may even lower your numbers a bit. Congrats on removing alcohol from your diet. That is the very best thing you could have done to help slow down and limit your liver damage. In time as your numbers digress, you way want to reconsider the Peg+Ribavirin while you are still healthy enough to tolerate it reasonably well. On the other hand, if your numbers remain low for a long enough period of time, they may finally develop a protease inhibitor that is much more successful in it's remission rate and much better tolerated by the patient. Good luck!

Hi BB, thanks for the concern and reply. My #'s have stayed pretty consistant over the years, cept a large spike 5 yrs ago which prompted a biopsy which didn't show much damage. I was using Melatonin for sleep at the time. With the spike, I quit that and I do use Milk Thistle daily. I have a few friends who also are HCV +, and a few have gone the Peg+Ribavirin route. They always complained of the fatigue factor. My job is extremely physical and I'm sure I couldn't work in conjunction with it. Recent medical woes have me pondering a vocational change, and if and when my numbers go up, I'll address a new approach.
Til then I'll keep puffing and eat that occasional brownie! Best to you all!

as far as the title of the thread goes..

pro: it is much more medically... something..
well right now it's very good medically. yes very much so.

con: blood in stool. if this presists for three or four weeks i'm going to have to cut these out of my dosing pattern.

but as far as medically affected, yesirree.