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Old 06-12-2019, 02:19 AM #911
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Can someone tell me the logic behind processing flowers in to a toxic mix to vape?

Reminds me of grains that are processed in to unhealthy crap then "Fortified" with some of the vitamins and minerals stripped out during processing. End result is type 2 diabetes.
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Old 06-12-2019, 02:23 PM #912
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Can someone tell me the logic behind processing flowers in to a toxic mix to vape?

Reminds me of grains that are processed in to unhealthy crap then "Fortified" with some of the vitamins and minerals stripped out during processing. End result is type 2 diabetes.
Have you ever heard of the Dunning Kruger effect? People who aren't educated about something tend to think they know more about it BECAUSE of how little they know.

That's like you with nutrition. You speak as if you have some knowledge or authority, but it is very VERY clear that you are talking out of your ass.

imo you shouldn't say things are true when you don't know if they are.

Type 2 Diabetes is NOT caused by processing or fortification. Not even a little bit.

This kind of misinformation isn't just annoying, it's straight up dangerous.
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Have you ever heard of the Dunning Kruger effect? People who aren't educated about something tend to think they know more about it BECAUSE of how little they know.
That's like you with nutrition. You speak as if you have some knowledge or authority, but it is very VERY clear that you are talking out of your ass.
imo you shouldn't say things are true when you don't know if they are.
Type 2 Diabetes is NOT caused by processing or fortification. Not even a little bit.
This kind of misinformation isn't just annoying, it's straight up dangerous.
I second this, absolutely, you can sound credible for some people because you are confident about stuff you can't prove. It is huge responsibility, think about it.
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Can someone tell me the logic behind processing flowers in to a toxic mix to vape?
Anyways, I don't know about toxic(there is legally and practically), the answer you were looking for is money, one of the main motivators for anything.
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Can someone tell me the logic behind processing flowers in to a toxic mix to vape?

Reminds me of grains that are processed in to unhealthy crap then "Fortified" with some of the vitamins and minerals stripped out during processing. End result is type 2 diabetes.
Good questions, though some of the support reasoning falls apart under close scrutiny.

Why not just smoke the weed!!

One reason for me is the bronchitis that smoking weed introduced into my life.

That moves us to dabbing instead, which has been considerably less invasive, and then to e-cigs, which is probably what this discussion is more about.

My read, is convenience and marketing.

And in this thread, the question is not just the Sweet Mary's Charms vaporized, but more specifically, the available dilutents under discussion.

A step beyond that, is the question of what if no dilutents are used, but terpenes are added, and that leads us to the question of what terpenes and how much.............
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Good questions, though some of the support reasoning falls apart under close scrutiny.
Just the one question, and one of us misunderstood it. I was thinking that because of the thread provides context, why would TT do such thing. Maybe I was wrong about the question.

Can't we try to make a terpene profiles(simplified like others do) and mix according to real strains terpene content? As I understand diluent is for cutting right? Distillates work without it in a cart, not too thick? right?
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A step beyond that, is the question of what if no dilutents are used, but terpenes are added, and that leads us to the question of what terpenes and how much.............
Very good question. Tests need to be done to see if its unhealthy above a certain percentage.
Not sure how one would go about that. It would take many subjects and many years.

That was supposed to be the whole reason to use Viscosity. It was only terpenes.
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Have you ever heard of the Dunning Kruger effect? People who aren't educated about something tend to think they know more about it BECAUSE of how little they know.

That's like you with nutrition. You speak as if you have some knowledge or authority, but it is very VERY clear that you are talking out of your ass.

imo you shouldn't say things are true when you don't know if they are.

Type 2 Diabetes is NOT caused by processing or fortification. Not even a little bit.

This kind of misinformation isn't just annoying, it's straight up dangerous.
Wow thanks for enlightening me I'm off to stock up on Count Chocula and Ramen noodles.

You are a condescending little prick.




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Studies led by researchers from Monash University and the University of Queensland have linked the most common heat-based methods of food processing to increased insulin sensitivity and type 2 diabetes. This is due to the high levels of glycation end-products in foods treated using these methods. While the research was focused within the country of Australia, the data can be extrapolated to any region where these food processing techniques are utilized.
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18331228
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanc...on_end-product

Mr D, you are might be right about that, still not real conclusion, but logical by what I have just read about it.

But this is a bad article about this: https://www.monash.edu/news/articles...ype-2-diabetes the wikipedia link above has couple of good citations about diabetes.

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Reminds me of grains that are processed in to unhealthy crap then "Fortified" with some of the vitamins and minerals stripped out during processing. End result is type 2 diabetes.
Minerals and vitamins has nothing to do with it, at least directly:
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Advanced glycation end products (AGEs) are proteins or lipids that become glycated as a result of exposure to sugars.[1] They can be a factor in aging and in the development or worsening of many degenerative diseases, such as diabetes, atherosclerosis, chronic kidney disease, and Alzheimer's disease.[2]
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Wow thanks for enlightening me I'm off to stock up on Count Chocula and Ramen noodles.
You are a condescending little prick.
Even thou you are right by the statement "AGEs may have a role in developing diabetes" all your other statements are false.

And both of you were a little out of line I think, but it wasn't that bad I guess.

And let's not take the thread off track!
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Wow thanks for enlightening me I'm off to stock up on Count Chocula and Ramen noodles.

You are a condescending little prick.
Medical misinformation kills people, and I have zero patience for it. If you don't want to be treated in a condescending way, don't be so reckless with your words.
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