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Old 01-01-2015, 07:23 PM #31
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any european websites that sell rock dust?
alfalfa....can I just buy this in a health food store? does it come in different forms like seeds, meal? are they used the same?
I found a good site kelp4free.com which had a great variety of amendments especially for cannabis but shipping from the US costs like $60!! Like the LED I ordered...cost $300 + 100 for shipping! on top of this it got withheld by customs who asked for another 100euros till they let me have it.
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Old 01-01-2015, 07:34 PM #32
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what are some viable substitutes for rock dust?. I am starting a no till living organic soil setup so am looking for various ingredients....half of these amendments I have never heard of, have no idea how to translate into my native language and have no idea where i would buy so any more websites would be much appreciated (something like kelp4free.com), maybe some german, dutch or spanish based sites anybody??
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Granite dust, from a fabricator shop, is a reasonable substitute I believe. Many recipies rely on ingredients hard to source outside of North America, but there are simpler ones with inputs that are easily substituted or adjusted to local ingredients.
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Old 01-02-2015, 04:23 PM #34
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check Garden Centers, Landscating bussines and Nurseries, at least in Germany and Spain they carry a good amount of ammends.

I got two brands of Rock Dust, (different colour too) from two different places
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What a great thread. I was looking through all the US organic threads and wondering where to start sourcing this stuff in the UK.. All I had to do was look up and see the sticky! Props to Verdant and jaded for getting the ball rolling..

Got a couple of questions. I've been growing organic since I can remember with only a few chem grows in the beginning in 95'. I've generally always used either bought organic soils which is VERY hit and miss. Bought a load of organic New Horizon last season for outdoor grow/general gardening and it sucked. Was hardly cooked.. Found it was infested with insects etc.

At the moment I'm using mycos (unfortunately rootgrow - thanks for the tip on the spore count, won't be buying it again), Plant Magic Oldtimer range with their bio silicon, root stimulator plus biocanna bloom stim. In the past I've used the biocanna and Plant Magic ranges to great effect with light organic soils. Also have done ultra budget grows using soluble comfrey and seaweed (not the best results but quite fun)..

The reason I've gone with all the bottles in the past is that all their ingredients (or so they claim) comes from plant material and not animal. With Verdants soil recipe is it possible to find something to replace the worm castings and blood/bone? I see the guano has been replaced with neem seed so that's cool. As the worm castings are pretty strong ferts I'm wondering if it's possible to find a veg replacement..

Thanks for any ideas. Not sure if I'll do a soil yet as still have quite a bit of PM Oldtimer left but for a future reference this is useful..
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rik78 are you talking bricks and mortar or internet? Could you elaborate on whereabouts you got your rock dust?
I got a reply from gardendirect.co.uk, their charge for shipping to central europe was 28pounds which is not much less than the 56USD quoted from kelp4free...

I have a question...Is rock potash and rock phosphate anything like rock dust?
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This is a great resource for us in the uk. Thanks again Verdant!
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yo buddyy rock dust is heavy stuff cost a lot to ship b&q sell rock dust you can get a lot of amendments like fish meal oyster shell and crab or krill meal at fishing shops or sites also a lot of stuff i get from "the organic garden catalogue" its uk based rock dust is for trace minerals where as rock potash and phosphate are used for there nutrient content i.e. P and K try garden centres to a lot stock kelp meal worm casts and bone meal and the like
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Fytocell

I just wanted to bring some attention to Fytocell as an alternative to Perlite. I am just starting to use it, so I will try to update with some experience.

As far as I can see, the advantage is simply that it is bio-degradeable. There is also a question whether non degrading perlite is really a problem in terms of organics/sustainability.

Just putting it out there...
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Old 04-18-2015, 11:13 PM #40
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Quality info for us UK organic growers, just want to mention bucket of worms again if you don,t have a worm farm yourself these are by far the best quality EWC I've bought and if you email them they'll put in bags instead of tubs and knock some money of the weight for delivery this is good if your buying large amounts, I buy it 100 litres a time.
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