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Old 04-26-2013, 09:34 PM #31
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The ornamentals I sprayed with the neem concoction seems to have deterred the ant. A few days later, still no ants... Now I am going to spray some of my veggies (specially strawberries - something is eating their leaves)
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What rates per gallon are people using the Dr.Bronners products?

I took a quick re read through the thread and couldn't find the info although I thought I recalled it being here....

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Old 05-18-2013, 12:24 AM #33
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does neem cake tea effect pistils in flower? the neem oil I have gets very little use because of the residual, I was wondering if the tea eliminates this?

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Old 05-19-2013, 05:53 PM #34
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took a leap of faith

make 1/2 cup need meal 1/4 cup kelp meal and tsp silica

bubbled 16-18 hours ph was approx 7 at application did not test prior

straight watered all plants, saturated pots and then topped off each one with 2 cups of neem meal tea and did a foliar with a 6th strength version of the same

gotta be honest i like the smell of neem oil better, and really normally like to use stuff that I like the smell, taste (if possible) texture, look, etc of.

I like the smell of kelp I like the feel of castings i like the taste of molasses so i tend to gravitate to amendments I find biocompatible or at least attractive to one of my senses

not necessarily for good reason just seems to be the way it has worked for me, well see how it articulates in this experiment
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Weird - what neem meal/cake are you using?
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bought it in a white deli quart container so they must buy bulk and sell it in smaller containers

Smelt like puppy breath
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Was it certified organic?

I ask because for a long time I used Down To Earth brand, the color was bland and the smell of the tea was akin to vomit - pretty nasty.

Not organic

I switched to Ahimsa neem, certified organic, darkish red/brown in color with a very rich smell closer to bitter dark chocolate - I use less and its more effective, and the smell I've grown to like.

DTE neem seed meal is the byproduct of Dynagros neem oil

Ahimsa neem seed meal is a byproduct of their own neem oil production - both organic.
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If the smell of the neem meal is not to your liking or even neem oil then karanja oil & meal might be a better choice.

As far as ease of mixing then karanja oil is definitely a good choice - not nearly as thick making it easier to measure and emulsify.

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bjw - am not sure great question, it fairly certain all their amendments are certified since they advocate organics and everything with a label I shopped had it but I won't know till I ask. Thanks

cc - thanks for the advice, i was sold on your write up of neem meal so I am not going to abandon it just yet, Ill see how it effects the plants and take it from their.

It didn't smell putrid or foul, I just don't like it. I smelt it a few times to makes sure it was simply an organic smell i didn't like versus the smell of something that didn't smell just right

Who knows if my plants like it enough I might start liking the smell after all
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I use Karanja Oil and neem seed meal - best of both worlds lol

CC is right on the smell weird, neem and Karanja are 99.9% identical - easily interchangeable so you're not losing out with an 'either/or' type choice.
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