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Most narcotic strain against insomnia

GoatCheese

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jrelax said:
I will grow SOG next time, so i can find out many types how they

work on me. After that if i find 2-3 nice ones i start grow them in bigger pots after.



I think SOG is good idea when you want try many different strains



smal 3,6 litre pots , only give 7-10 day veg


I know they get better also when grow them 10-20litre after testing. Maybe its good way test growing SOG
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does SOG work ok medically just to be able try many strains almost same time ?
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Sure sog is a good way to grow many plants at one time

Are you thinking about taking cuts of those plants? ...if so i suggest you veg longer, thou it is also possible to take cuttings even during flowering, but i'd recommend vegging them longer for cuts.
 
Nirrity

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i would exclude blimburn and original sensible
blimburn gdp is not gdp, there is thread on it at roll-it-up.
original sensible is a scam. there is another great vendor which is sensible seeds, but they are not breeders.

gdp, cherry pie, god's gift are all pretty much the same. purps is a little bit different, but, aside from Nspecta/CSI humboldt i am not aware of any genuine mendo purps. purps are not sleepy rlaxing indica anyway as ive been told by nspecta.

ewe-2 according to some reports i've seen they say it's meh. can be yet another bubba-type.

i would probably add afgooey s1 by strain hunters. i don't lnow if they are any good but i guess worth checking just incase it is indeed selfed afghooey.

another 2 i also didn't try but am interested are:

northern lights x by genehtik - supposed to be a nl line from 2000 maintained is spain. perhaps carrax or mustafunk can chime in here if it is legit or a rip off.

anesthesia by pyramid seeds.
 
KONY

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Smoke first thing in the morning as soon as you get up, before you do anything else. Continue smoking throughout the day, even if just a puff here and there.

Go to bed at night. If you are having trouble falling asleep last thing you should be doing is smoking before bed, doesn't matter the strain. Even strong indicas make some people wired.
 
Carraxe

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KONY said:
Smoke first thing in the morning as soon as you get up, before you do anything else. Continue smoking throughout the day, even if just a puff here and there.

Go to bed at night. If you are having trouble falling asleep last thing you should be doing is smoking before bed, doesn't matter the strain. Even strong indicas make some people wired.
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Come on. Some people have to be sober for a while. Some even must be sober most of the day
 
JustSumTomatoes

JustSumTomatoes

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KONY said:
Smoke first thing in the morning as soon as you get up, before you do anything else. Continue smoking throughout the day, even if just a puff here and there.

Go to bed at night. If you are having trouble falling asleep last thing you should be doing is smoking before bed, doesn't matter the strain. Even strong indicas make some people wired.
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To be honest I tried this and it didn't help me at all. For me, it's best to consume an hour or two before I want to try and pass out.
 
Carraxe

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Getting to bed tired physically is what I find to help sleeping. I would recommend some exercising in the mornings or early afternoon. After that, sleeping would be easier. And some indica would help more than getting very stoned, like one or two beers would help more than a bottle of burbon.



If you want Taskenti seeds, I have many and you can see how I grow them. Send me a PM



Cheers
 
GoatCheese

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JustSumTomatoes said:
To be honest I tried this and it didn't help me at all. For me, it's best to consume an hour or two before I want to try and pass out.
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Yea, i start smoking about 2-3 hours before bedtime, and i have noticed if you take your first hits of the day an hour before you aim to get some sleep, usually i'm awake past the time cause the rush of THC is still giving me an uplift.


I haven't found a proper knock out-stone yet, but i recommend people STOP smoking ATLEAST an hour before they want to get some sleep so that you'll get that plateu/come-down part of the effect for bed time.
 
jrelax

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Hi again all. Thank you all so much for these good info.


[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Nirrity i will try genehtic and that anesthesia.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]If someone likes Bubba Kush, then you should try Greenhouse Bubba Kush,[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Many dont like Greenhouse. But their Bubba Kush is very heavy indica narcotic long lasting,
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Wery good if you like Bubba Kush , one of the best.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Also their Sativa Super Lemon Haze is Magic.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Those Taskenti looks awsome, pretty easy trim also what i can see. Is that true?[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Love the frostness. One of the finest plants i seen by pictures.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The seeds you got, they are Regular right? Or ?[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]How about feminize some, is that possible to self with that collodial silver i think they use ?[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In the future i will only grow regulars.[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Right now i grow feminized photoperiods only, this makes it little bit easier.[/FONT]




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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]About smoking.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I try take sativa dom daytime, then heavy indica 1 hour before go bed.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]When i find good ones that work for me i start also take cuttings then.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]To find them i will go SOG next time, give only 7-10 days veg.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Im trying to find strains fast that works.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]When i have them, then i let them grow in big pots, also take cuttings then. This is in future.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Also i want make coco oil then with these indicas that work best for sleep then.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I believe the coco oil 2 hours before bed is nice with good heavy indica.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Some times smoke, sometimes cocooil, can be good variety that maybe ?[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]We are all different, there is also people sleeping well after Sativa dom. LOL.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This is a huge jungle, so many different strains, toke styles, and also that we react different.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Nothing is 100% same for everyone. This is not easy you all know that .[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Search , search try lots, its a huge jungle LOL
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ogfresh

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I read through most of these replies a found that a lot of the genetics posted in some of the responses are way outdated!
To be honest the best genetics are coming from the US and not some Dutch SeedBank’s or Spain bait and swap hemp seeds lol
I’m a insomniac and OG kushes do it for me! ( loompa headband and triangle kush to be exact) but there’s a lot of breeders working with those 2 strains! For example Skunkhouse genetics(tk Larry)(Larry ruttiger)(SoCal pure larry)!! All of these will put you down down for the count! One pack is all you need to find several winning phenos to match what your looking for!
 
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ogfresh

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Ps. I’m a high end veteran connoisseur smoker! I only smoke dank that put peeps to sleep after a joint type ish....
 
JustSumTomatoes

JustSumTomatoes

Indicas make dreams happen
On the topic of insomnia, how bad is it for everyone here? For me it's a chronic condition I've lived with for the past 15 years with it getting very bad the past few. I turned the lights out at midnight last night and tossed around wide awake all night til 7 in the morning. I often go a day or two without sleeping at all. 4 days is my record with it causing visual and auditory hallucinations. I've done sleep studies and am seeing a sleep specialist, which so far has gotten me nowhere. This really is no way to live.
 
Carraxe

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ogfresh said:
I read through most of these replies a found that a lot of the genetics posted in some of the responses are way outdated!
To be honest the best genetics are coming from the US and not some Dutch SeedBank’s or Spain bait and swap hemp seeds lol
I’m a insomniac and OG kushes do it for me! ( loompa headband and triangle kush to be exact) but there’s a lot of breeders working with those 2 strains! For example Skunkhouse genetics(tk Larry)(Larry ruttiger)(SoCal pure larry)!! All of these will put you down down for the count! One pack is all you need to find several winning phenos to match what your looking for!
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That looks like a very undocumented opinion
 
Nordic Stoner

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JustSumTomatoes said:
On the topic of insomnia, how bad is it for everyone here? For me it's a chronic condition I've lived with for the past 15 years with it getting very bad the past few. I turned the lights out at midnight last night and tossed around wide awake all night til 7 in the morning. I often go a day or two without sleeping at all. 4 days is my record with it causing visual and auditory hallucinations. I've done sleep studies and am seeing a sleep specialist, which so far has gotten me nowhere. This really is no way to live.
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why would you wait till midnight to turn the lights out and then wonder why you cant sleep, remove yourself from all unnatural light when the sun goes down, yes that means doing things in darkness past 7 pm but if you aren't sleeping for days at a time im sure you're willing to try, that or a nice big edible makes anyone go to sleep
 
JustSumTomatoes

JustSumTomatoes

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Nordic Stoner said:
why would you wait till midnight to turn the lights out and then wonder why you cant sleep, remove yourself from all unnatural light when the sun goes down, yes that means doing things in darkness past 7 pm but if you aren't sleeping for days at a time im sure you're willing to try, that or a nice big edible makes anyone go to sleep
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Well to be fair, yes I have tried that and am well aware that artificial light can keep people up. 2 weeks ago I went camping where there was no unnatural light other than a campfire that was put out around 11:00 and I didn't fall asleep until 5:30am. That's with being up the night before and a full day of hiking up and down steep hills.

I've been living with this for awhile and am open to suggestions but I promise it is not caused by lifestyle alone. I've had my brain monitored in a medical study and in 8 hours of darkness showed no sign of sleep activity or anything to indicate I was about to go into it.

I honestly wish it was that simple for me, then I wouldn't have this problem. And yes, an edible certainly helps :)
 
Nordic Stoner

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JustSumTomatoes said:
Well to be fair, yes I have tried that and am well aware that artificial light can keep people up. 2 weeks ago I went camping where there was no unnatural light other than a campfire that was put out around 11:00 and I didn't fall asleep until 5:30am. That's with being up the night before and a full day of hiking up and down steep hills.

I've been living with this for awhile and am open to suggestions but I promise it is not caused by lifestyle alone. I've had my brain monitored in a medical study and in 8 hours of darkness showed no sign of sleep activity or anything to indicate I was about to go into it.

I honestly wish it was that simple for me, then I wouldn't have this problem. And yes, an edible certainly helps :)
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that was wrong of me to assume, well some people like up sativas during the day cause by the time they come down they're worn out, some like cbd, for excersice I would go with high intensity or nothing, diet is important as well like getting good fats in a the second half of the day like nuts, olive oil, fish, glass of warm milk, a hot bath before bed works really well, I think it makes your blood vessels constrict then unconstrict, back in the day when I used to get killer weed when I was like 16 I got this one that made me literally feel like I was gonna die if I didn't climb into bed, as soon as I did I felt this blissful feeling of relaxation on a cloud type feel before passing out so there are those sleeping pill indicas out there, im searching for them as well
 
Nirrity

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JustSumTomatoes, seems like your brain produces its own amphetamines)

seriously though, did you try zolpidem? i am not advocating pharmaceuticals as they don't solve anything, but i wonder how it worked on you in case you did.

i found proper regimen is of utmost importance. i don't get insomniac all that bad, so no comparison with you. yet even in my case going to bed before 11 pm us crucial if i want to wake up at 7 am. if i failed - and i failed a lot - i may not be able to sleep until 1-2 am and it takes me another 3-4 days to go back. basically, turning off pc at 9 pm and put away a smartphone and using warm dim light helps me.

your condition looks as scientificaly interesting as empathically painful... don't give up bro
 
JustSumTomatoes

JustSumTomatoes

Indicas make dreams happen
Nirrity said:
JustSumTomatoes, seems like your brain produces its own amphetamines)

seriously though, did you try zolpidem? i am not advocating pharmaceuticals as they don't solve anything, but i wonder how it worked on you in case you did.

i found proper regimen is of utmost importance. i don't get insomniac all that bad, so no comparison with you. yet even in my case going to bed before 11 pm us crucial if i want to wake up at 7 am. if i failed - and i failed a lot - i may not be able to sleep until 1-2 am and it takes me another 3-4 days to go back. basically, turning off pc at 9 pm and put away a smartphone and using warm dim light helps me.

your condition looks as scientificaly interesting as empathically painful... don't give up bro
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Yes, they put me on the highest dose of Ambien (10mg) and it didn't touch me. They said they haven't seen a case quite like this one before. It took awhile to find a specialist and It's hard to get in, like 2 or more months between appointments. They seem hard pressed at throwing different pills at me, but nothing has helped me so far except cannabis. This is certainly frustrating and very much agonizing.
 
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