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Old 05-19-2018, 09:58 PM #11
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Impressed by the bullshittiness of Arizona's laws. Possession anywhere up to 2 lbs is a felony 6 months-2 years. Max fine $150k. Fuck that place. Although it'd be lovely to grow there.
You'll probably get probation. But there's no caveat that under an ounce gets treated differently then over an ounce.
This is a poor place to get legal advice. If you haven't talked to a lawyer do so it's free. If you can't afford one the state of Arizona would be delighted to give you one on loan. You'll be paying them back when you're convicted and fined.
For a rundown of the Arizona penal system, what it does to society, and the rampant recidivism that goes on there I recommend the movie Raising Arizona.
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Impressed by the bullshittiness of Arizona's laws. Possession anywhere up to 2 lbs is a felony 6 months-2 years. Max fine $150k. Fuck that place. Although it'd be lovely to grow there.
You'll probably get probation. But there's no caveat that under an ounce gets treated differently then over an ounce.

"Under the Arizona legislation Proposition 200 (i.e. “Prop 200″), judges are prohibited from sending first or second time nonviolent drug offenders to prison until their third conviction, even if convicted on felony drug violations. The judge may only sentence the defendant to a term of probation and mandatory drug treatment."


Under Prop 200 voted on in 1996, anything under an OZ is automatically pushed to drug court to 'free up the courts', anything over an OZ up to 2lb can be pleaded into prop 200 but is treated differently in the court system and recommend to lawyer up.

Penalties under prop 200 are $1,000 fine, required completion of TASC and completion of 280 community service hours (think it was either 260 or 280 but can remember exactly). Charge starts as a Felony 6 dropping to a misdemeanor after completion of the program.


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This is a poor place to get legal advice.

Your right there, the forums aren't what they used to be.
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Old 05-24-2018, 11:20 AM #13
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Yeah, keep stalling them. I lived in Arizona and they popped me for my stash a couple of times. They're letting people off with less, left and right.

Tell em your life is over, this is a catastrophe, this is horrible, and when they say "Well, at least you'll be out to s**** in the park to pay these fines so we can all drive new cars and be called lawyers,"

STONE COLD as ICE tell them ALL - "what's the USE -
my life is

OVER!!!!"

Look; ever watch law & order? Ever notice the guy on the street - he always says the same thing, and the guys who get busted, who protest - all say the same thing?

That's because you CAN guilt trip them back. If you got a lawyer, you go on like somebody cut your nose off with a razor blade. Make him FEEL it - even if it's just a call. Make him able to CONVEY to the assistant district attorney, some kid from the local college working up some contacts before going out on her on, that - you're one un happy motherfucker.

And don't let that shit slip out as rebellion cause then you'll get THAT version of "law and order."

Act like your live has been eviscerated. Don't ever let up no matter how fucking sane everybody says start acting. Make faces like every signed paper makes you want to throw up on the forms.

Hey - you do your shit right and they're embarrassed to see you going on about it in the court room. I was an activist, I told a few attorneys and judges to f** off.

These people can be played some. We managed to get pot legal in 20-somethin states, when I started fuckin with em - there wasn't legal pot in even California yet: not ONE.

So kinda figure how you're gonna do. If it's really gonna be best to be nice, fine... do it. Generally these kinds of laws are what keep lawyers working and doing each other favors so the deal is you hire a lawyer you get the minimum.

On the other hand

if you get a public pretender you get the minimum too.

If you're paying for a lawyer you should ask that it all be dropped so you can "get on with your life, " when you've paid all your fines.

Those no good assholes know that pot's not harmful and that it's THEM dying of opioids. So you aren't the scum of the earth although they'll make it a real point not to smile at anything you do.

I'm just lettin you know that should the worst happen and you don't get a lawyer, don't sweat it too much. Those assholes ARE going to steal from you, yes. Their kids get shit for chrismas because they're government employees, fuck your wife and kids. You're buyin this year.

On the other hand they also know about people coming unhinged from unfair shit and going off like a roman candle so - they get kinda treading light sometimes when they actually have to talk to you, to your face, about terms. Don't be too afraid of em, it's an extortion game.

Government employees

duck and dodge and claim it's just pert near impossible to ketch innie uh thim real criminals... cawse thay's dangerous and whatnot

but you - you're honest so you're gonna get shaken down. How much you complain is up to you.
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"Why am I being criminalized, I'm not the one who thought taking opioids would keep me off opioids." (Point to your own head) "I have sense enough to know pot's not like heroin. I have sense to know it's not" (make hands like apostrophes around a phrase when you say "Worse for me than methyl amphetamine! It seems like with you people squealing about how you're all dying from opiates, you'd look over and see where pot's legal they have an immediate 25% reduction in opioid O.D.s."

Let em try that shit on for size. Practice it in a mirror.
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