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Old 02-12-2019, 04:50 AM #61
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Other bills have recently been introduced, including that States Rights cannabis bill. One way or another, I suspect that legalization is coming. I believe that the Federal govt will allow each state to choose it’s own destiny. Some states may allow you to grow your own(with limitations) and other states may not. I look forward to the day that dispensaries will be available to everyone, and not just the lucky few. I look forward to the day that i won’t have to worry about peeing in a cup for a job. I look forward to the day that i won’t have to live in fear, or hide something that i enjoy so much.
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You will not get CBD without purchasing the FDA approved products in the not so distant future.

I ask, can you buy other drugs legally without FDA approval???
No it is impossible to do.
Why would you think you would be able to do it all of a sudden.

All drugs must be FDA approved!
This is not debatable, not one bit!
so you can tell the future? don't you ever get tired of running in circles squalling "THE SKY IS FALLING!" there are thousands of herbal supplements & over the counter drugs available. CBD will be among them, as it already is here. NY is only stopping it as additives to food & drink because (they say) it has not yet been proven safe. LOL. NY has not yet been proven safe. but we all know that CBD IS safe, and testing will bear that out. as long as they market it as a herbal supplement, (hint-STOP CALLING IT A DRUG!) without claiming it will "cure" anything, the wheels on the bus will go round & round. EVERYTHING is debatable regardless of your state of panic...
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Of course they don't have control over it YET; they just proposed the bill.
The point is that they want to control it and they will control it. That's why they proposed the bill.
The federal government doesn't deserve any tax money from marijuana; ever! Stop thinking that it's normal that every level of government DESERVES to get money from every transaction. Local governments think they deserve a cut, county governments want their cut, state governments want their cut and now the federal government thinks they deserve a cut. They don't. Can't you see it's a big racket?
All this bill will do is jack up the prices on marijuana products even further and it will take more control out of the hands of citizens. You can also forget about being allowed to grow your own; the fed will never allow that.
They will also probably ban concentrates too. The federal government will add so many levels of regulation that the price to bring marijuana to market will escalate.
Stop thinking that being a good little conformist to the establishment is a good thing. The establishment just wants your money, it wants to take away your freedoms and it wants to control you.
Couldn’t have said it better. It’s all about money and control.
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I’m all for decriminalizing but in no way will I vote Yes to something that is going to ban me from Growing my own cannabis. The way the bill is written is just bad news for most of us here in the aspect of doing what we love
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My grandmother farmed for 70 years without a tomatoe or a corn permit. A true rebel. She also fished. Not sure if she had a license for that.

It all boils down to: what will production and retail licensing cost at different levels, and will unlimited permits be issued? The states will decide. Guarantee Cali won't be cheap or easy.

The medical connotations seems like a probable back door into further regulation. Lawyers are gonna have fun with this one. You know, breath mints have to be sold as candy to avoid strict regulations that come with other connotations.
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no permit required ANYWHERE to farm, unless you are running a commercial greenhouse etc. eat it, or trade/give it to neighbors/relatives, no problem. in TN, fishing license depends on where you fish, how old you are, what bait you use, and what you are fishing for. not a rebel, just a normal citizen...unless she was growing weed or opium poppies, lol. "tomato"
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I’m all for decriminalizing but in no way will I vote Yes to something that is going to ban me from Growing my own cannabis. The way the bill is written is just bad news for most of us here in the aspect of doing what we love

You will never be able to vote on legal weed at the US federal level. Unless you are a member of congress. You will only (maybe) be able to vote on weed at the state level or below that. Just the way that it works in the states.
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You need to have a nursery license to sell plant material. The government doesn't use it for oppression, its just a method to trace back problems with diseases/insects. I guess its similar when talking about cannabis. Mold inspections, proper labeling, other consumer issues would be what needs to be improved.



This Week's Stories: NORML in the Media:
Legislation would make marijuana legal in Illinois and treat it ‘how we treat alcohol’


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February 14, 2019 05:00 AM,

Updated February 14, 2019 01:19 PM







https://www.bnd.com/latest-news/arti...e-week-2212019


Springfield Attention at the Statehouse is expected to begin focusing on one of Democratic Gov. J.B. Pritzker’s top priorities — legalizing recreational marijuana.
State Rep. Carol Ammons, a Democrat from Urbana, has introduced a bill that is drawing attention. It would open the door to a much more expansive legal pot industry than most others have envisioned. The deadline to introduce new bills is Friday.


Ammons’ bill, the “Cannabis Legalization Equity Act,” would allow anyone 21 or older with valid identification to purchase or sell marijuana. Driving under the influence of the drug would still be illegal, and the legislation makes specific mention that only “legitimate, taxpaying business people” would be permitted to sell cannabis.
Illinoisans, under the measure, could possess as many as 224 grams, or roughly half a pound, of marijuana at a time. It would also allow individuals to grow as many as 24 plants in their own homes for personal consumption, and it would provide for the licensing of cultivation facilities and retail dispensaries.
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Ammons did not respond to requests for comment for this story. Her measure includes language, though, indicating its purpose would be to allow “law enforcement to focus on violent and property crimes, generating revenue for education and other public purposes, and individual freedom.”

“We like it. We think that that’s more in line with how we treat alcohol,” said Dan Linn, who lobbies for the Illinois chapter of NORML — the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws. “We also think it would be good for consumers to be able to cultivate their own cannabis, as well as to have a cap on the licensing fees for the new businesses that would be created by that legislation.
Ammons’ proposal, which has not yet been assigned to a committee, includes a civil penalty, not a criminal one, of $200 to $400 for minors who attempt to buy marijuana illegally.
Also in the bill is a requirement that at least 51 percent of the licenses for cultivating facilities and retail cannabis stores be issued, “in communities disproportionately harmed by the war on drugs,” which the bill defines as census tracts in which more than half the population is African-American, Native American, Hispanic or Latino.
The bill also would authorize medical researchers to use cannabis in studies, as long as the participants are at least 21 years old.
Revenue for the state would be generated by a 10 percent excise tax on the sale or transfer of marijuana from a cultivating facility to a retail store. Half of that money would be paid into the state’s main checking account, while 30 percent would go to the Common School Fund.

Smaller percentages of the revenue would be distributed to various state retirement systems; the Department of Human Services to fund treatment programs for tobacco, alcohol and cannabis abuse; and to the Department of State police for hiring and training drug recognition efforts.
There is no official estimate of how much revenue the bill would generate.
Linn said NORML will have a lobbying day at the Statehouse on Wednesday, Feb. 20, the same day Pritzker is scheduled to give his budget address to the Legislature. And with Pritzker’s backing of legalization, Linn said he thinks there is a good chance something will pass this year.
“I think there’s a strong push to make it happen as quickly as possible so that we can create these jobs and bring in this needed revenue,” he said.
Still, any effort toward legalization is certain to meet resistance. The Illinois Catholic Conference recently announced its opposition to legalization. Law enforcement groups including the Chicago Crime Commission and the Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police have also said they will oppose such a measure, as has the Drug Free America Foundation.

The legislation is House Bill 902.
Capital News Illinois covers developments in the General Assembly and is a service of the Illinois Press Association.






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Catholics in Illinois are like "hey drink booze weed is evil" also at the fed level don't get your hopes up nothing will come if this 420 bill
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Legalisation isn't about human rights. It's about money, and they won't make any from us growing our own. What they want to exploit is the medical aspects, which couldn't be denied forever. The recreational dollar is ok, but people facing death will really pay. I see a future where pills that won't get you high are taxed to death, and allowable with a prescription from the doctor. Separating them from the recreational market, which could be regulated very differently. With nothing licensed for prescription use that can get you high. Creating two quite different industries, that don't share legislation.


I think the prison system profits a number of families in power. They won't want to let people go, just because the law changed. They are still going to sit in jail for being law breakers. No matter if it becomes legal, they still broke the law. A situation that can't be undone.
I hope they stop chasing people not yet convicted though. Especially people of different nationalities. Which broke no law applicable in their own country, and now non in America. Hauling them before a court and nailing them for something that wasn't a crime where they lived, and is no longer a crime in that court, seems like it would really upset international relations. Speaking directly of Gypsy, The UK would be well pissed off if the states grabbed him from foreign shores and took him back for a crime that no longer exists. We don't want to hand him over, even while it is illegal. The US should really tell him he was a naughty boy, but hay, it's not illegal now. So you can't do it again. There is no lesson to learn. But have a fine you must pay before you come back. That ought to make everybody happy.
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