Should Trump pardon Obama?

packerfan79 · May 24, 2020

Should the President pardon Barack Obama, for the good of the country. As an attempt to calm the divisions in this nation. As the victim of these high crimes, and misdemeanors, the President could be the bigger man for all Americans.

Gry · May 24, 2020

a far less than honest question .

Cmoon · May 24, 2020

more things could be solved if Trump stopped breathing.

Gry · May 24, 2020

the question is based upon a set of conditions which don't exist.
If however we look to history, such pardons have been always been beloved by the CIA.

packerfan79 · May 24, 2020

Gry said:
a far less than honest question .

Not from what has been released in the last 3 weeks. It happened for Nixon. That scandal was a drop in the bucket in comparison.

Gry · May 24, 2020

Packer, to the best of my knowledge. that is a claim made only by Fox.
You seem to evade the part of my reply which speaks to the heart of the issue.

packerfan79 · May 24, 2020

Gry said:
Packer, to the best of my knowledge. that is a claim made only by Fox.
You seem to evade the part of my reply which speaks to the heart of the issue.

Are you claiming that without CIA approval, pardons can't happen?
In previous administrations I would probably agree. Obviously the CIA, and the Trump administration have a quite different relationship, than most presidents.

Fox maybe the only corporate media that has covered it. Fox is old people news, no one under 55 get there news from cable news. I have always believed, what the news doesn't report, is where the truth is found.

There are dozens of independent news sources that have covered Obamagate.

TakenByTheSky · May 24, 2020

Would Obama pardon Trump? NO

So why should Trump pardon Obama?

packerfan79 · May 24, 2020

TakenByTheSky said:
Would Obama pardon Trump? NO

So why should Trump pardon Obama?

For the good of the country. To rise above the extreme partisanship. We all know what Obama did. A prosecution of Obama would most likely lead to extreme violence from the left , and an extreme response from the right. .I would one day like to have more than 3 friends who disagree with me and still believe I am a human being.

Gry · May 24, 2020

packerfan79 said:
Are you claiming that without CIA approval, pardons can't happen?
In previous administrations I would probably agree. Obviously the CIA, and the Trump administration have a quite different relationship, than most presidents.

Fox maybe the only corporate media that has covered it. Fox is old people news, no one under 55 get there news from cable news. I have always believed, what the news doesn't report, is where the truth is found.

There are dozens of independent news sources that have covered Obamagate.

You asked what I am claiming.
My claim is that each and every similar pardon
had one thing in common. It helped the agency at the expense of the country.

Gry · May 24, 2020

Apologies if my posting is odd, am doing this from a phone.
What is it that leads to you to believe this president has a different relationship with the agency than past presidents?

packerfan79 · May 24, 2020

Gry said:
You asked what I am claiming.
My claim is that each and every similar pardon
had one thing in common. It helped the agency at the expense of the country.

correlation, doesn't necessarily equate to causation. You can be assured I am not a CIA operative.

Hell we could break the cycle, with this pardon.

packerfan79 · May 24, 2020

Gry said:
Apologies if my posting is odd, am doing this from a phone.
What is it that leads to you to believe this president has a different relationship with the agency than past presidents?

The fact that the CIA was part of the conspiracy to remove him from office.I doubt Brennan was the only spook, who was involved.

Do you believe there is a distinction between the agents on the ground, and the senior leadership?

Treetroit City · May 24, 2020

Packer, your foil is showing.

packerfan79 · May 24, 2020

Treetroit City said:
Packer, your foil is showing.

Care to expound on that. Brennan testified under oath, that he never saw evidence Trump colluded with the russians, while claiming he had evidence when appearing on CNN claiming he had evidence. Not to mention all the FISA abuse, unmaskings, etc.

packerfan79 · May 24, 2020

Gry said:
Apologies if my posting is odd, am doing this from a phone.
What is it that leads to you to believe this president has a different relationship with the agency than past presidents?

Hey Gry,

Is their any truth to the rumor that the agency created the term conspiracy theorist to discredit their critics?

Gry · May 25, 2020

Was an effort to besmirch Mae Brussel, whom it would have been wiser to have embraced.

buzzmobile · May 25, 2020

Mae Brussel Radio Show

knucklehead bob · May 25, 2020

Gry said:
the question is based upon a set of conditions which don't exist.
If however we look to history, such pardons have been always been beloved by the CIA.

packerfan79 said:
Are you claiming that without CIA approval, pardons can't happen?
In previous administrations I would probably agree. Obviously the CIA, and the Trump administration have a quite different relationship, than most presidents.

Fox maybe the only corporate media that has covered it. Fox is old people news, no one under 55 get there news from cable news. I have always believed, what the news doesn't report, is where the truth is found.

There are dozens of independent news sources that have covered Obamagate.

Gry said:
You asked what I am claiming.
My claim is that each and every similar pardon
had one thing in common. It helped the agency at the expense of the country.

I don't believe anything of any significance that takes place in the U. S. to be without the blessing/knowledge of the CIA .

"what the news doesn't report, is where the truth is found."

"'Cause there's things goin' on that you don't know." - Lynyrd Skynyrd

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:dunno:

knucklehead bob · May 25, 2020

Is this what would be classified as irony as it pertains to the CIA ? :dunno:

Etched into the wall of the original building's main lobby is a biblical verse which also characterizes the intelligence mission in a free society. It reads:

"And ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free."

https://fas.org/irp/cia/product/facttell/building.htm

:tiphat:

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