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HELP! My Lady is dying! Is there a point in continuing or EUTHANASIA is THE way??

webwiller

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Hi everyone!
I wanna thank @MynameStitch for his 3d on deficiencies, pests & diseases, where from I borrowed the following checklist:

How long has this problem been going on?

Not sure 100%, 3 weeks give or take

What STRAIN are you growing?

RQS Quick One (Old School Indica x Afghan x Ruderalis)

What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?)

Seed

What is the age of your plants?

7 weeks from seedling sprout

How long have they been in the soil mixture they are in now?

Germinated in Jiffy, in 5 days moved to final (5gal) pot, 6 weeks & 2 days then.

Were they in the same mixture when they were seedlings/smaller plant?
N/A
If not, what mixture were they in before?
N/A

How Tall are the plants?

85cm/ 3 feet

What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?

Flower

What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc)

First grow ever, only some LST and very light cropping/defoliage

What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot)

20L/5gal

What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?)

1/3 Spaghnum peat moss
1/3 Perlite
1/3 Coco

What brand Nutrient's are you using?
*Knowing the brand is very helpful*

Canna Terra

How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water?

Used to follow Canna Feeding Calculator, setting parameters to "normal" feeding each&every nute written and giving each&every watering that amount correcting the PH in the 5.8-6.2 Range, as suggested to be "best" by Canna.

How often are you feeding?

Daily, top-off.

If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients?

About 3 days after first white pistils appeared

What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect)

I don't understand...in veg I follow veg nutes and chart, in flower I do the same.

What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used?

Better posting a pic of the feeding chart, you have every detail about EC and TDS there:

Canna-Feeding-Chart.jpg

What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"?

PH 6.43

How often are you testing pH/ppm/EC/TDS?

Daily

What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen?

Pen-meter (Hanna) - calibrated weekly

How often are you watering?

I was....Daily (top-off, NEVER drained! ...till I got to know things about salts accumulation)

When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding?

As I said, I fed each time I watered, only topping-off.

What size bulb are you using?

LED 570w Real

How old is your bulbs?

N/A

What is the distance to the canopy?

Now is 12" (30cm) - Began with 20" going down to 18-16-14 and 12"

What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity)

58-65%

What is the canopy temperature?

What? How am I supposed to measure it? If you mean temp inside the tent is about 25-30°c/ 77-86°f

What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range)

Nightime is 2-3°c less (35.6-37.4°f)


What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)

Optimal! Tent Air is completely recircled in 60 seconds at lower setting.

Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ?

1x Inline fan (from bottom tent)
1x Extractor with Carbon FIlter (from the top tent)
1x Std fan inside (just below/at canopy level)

Running h.24 but at nights I slow them down with an electricity controller

Is the fan blowing directly at plants?

The in-line works below canopy, the exauster at the top of the tent, only the std fan is just below/at canopy level, but is 20w, a slight breeze not a tornado like.

Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist?

No

Is your water HARD or SOFT?

Normal (EC 0.4) BUT I have been using the Air Conditioning water (EC 0.3, PPM 40) 'cause of TDS >400ppm

What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water?

The MAyor's water gone through the A/C implant

If using tap water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS of the water right out of the tap?(Only if you have a tds pen)

PH 7.7-8.4 - EC 0.4-0.6 - PPM 440-550 (sometimes I mix them)

If using RO,Distilled,mineral water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS without any additives?(Only if you have a tds pen)

The A/C water is PH 7.7-8.3 EC 0.25-0.3, PPM 40-50

Are you using water from a water softener?

No

Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched?

At beginning of flower, 2+ weeks ago, as said, only VERY lightly!

Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when?

No

Are plant's infected with pest's?

F.Gnats (under control) ...I don't think any other bug...

Now boys is fun time, the pics:

#1

IMG-20190803-Q1-1-1.jpg


#2

IMG-20190803-Q1-4-3.jpg


#3

IMG-20190803-Q1-1-19.jpg


#4

IMG-20190803-Q1-1-15.jpg


Last but not least:

https://i.ibb.co/XpcMwQZ/IMG-20190803-Q1-1-9.jpg

Once I realized I had to drain them at least 1/week, learned about salts accumulating, nutes blocked out by PH and by other nutes I flush all plants with...have a guess? Canna-Flush! And started feeding again but at 1/2 the doses prescribed, twice/week, I leave 'em to dry out first 2" of soil before watering, water only the rest and drain aboundant once/week.

All this saved 1 of my (tot. 4) plants. They are 2 strains, 2+2. The strain which suffered is the Quick-One. One plant was badly deficient and the above process set her on the right path (for what I see) but now I'm seriously thinking if it makes sense to bring this cadaver to ripening.

The other 3 could benefit for the space, less RH, better environment control and maybe produce something more or better.

What's your opinion about getting rid of the walking dead?! Does it make any sense? Or whatever will do is always something that I wouldn't have otherwise?!

Thanks in Advance for your patience, help, knowledge sharing and kindness!!!!

May Big Buds be with You!

Da1Gròa
 

GOT_BUD?

Weed is a gateway to gardening
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Your pH is 7.7 - 8.4?!

I think we found your problem.

You want your water to be around 5.5 - 6.5 for hydro and right around 7 for soil.

Those numbers are for nutes added in, right before watering, btw.
 

webwiller

Member
Your pH is 7.7 - 8.4?!

I think we found your problem.

You want your water to be around 5.5 - 6.5 for hydro and right around 7 for soil.

Those numbers are for nutes added in, right before watering, btw.

I bet u right! As a newby, I believed that when I corrected PH with acids, it was fine. But I guess it IS NOT!

I've been awake 36hrs non-stop just to explore any possible source and sort this issue out!

Yesterday night in the chat with the help of great experienced growers I took the decision to buy a Brita filter. Ordered today on Amazon, delivery in 4 days time (and I'm Prime too, grrrr!).

I'll update!!!

Thanks very much!
I hope to solve it this way...

:thank you:
 

Gypsy Nirvana

Recalcitrant Reprobate -
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You can always pop into chat for good/instant advice - we have some top growers that hang out there regularly -
 

webwiller

Member
You can always pop into chat for good/instant advice - we have some top growers that hang out there regularly -

Thank-you! I just reached 50 posts yesterday, I couldn't access the chat b4 that. Yesterday I spent about 12hrs on chat...this led me to Brita Filters...

Ty, anyway!!!

:biggrin:
 

webwiller

Member
I decided to put the girl in guerrilla to leave space for the more promising babes. She's too advanced in ripening to repair damages...she'll do her best in guerrilla and she'll end up in concentrate... :(
 
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