Help for new guy. Can't find Foxfarms Ocean Forest anywhere.

JohnR171R · Jul 16, 2020

Been watching this website for a long time and finally joined. I have a 250 watt hps grow cab that i have been using for many years now. It works pretty good but now i have a problem. I can't find foxfarm ocean forest soil anywhere and it's the only soil i ever used that worked. I never had a problem getting it before but now it doesn't seem to be available anywhere. I'm in upstate NY.

If anybody has any suggestions i would be most thankful.

Ringodoggie · Jul 16, 2020

Amazon has it if you buy online.

ElGato · Jul 16, 2020

Peat imports from Canada have pretty much stopped since the Covid19 thing started.
That is why you cant find any FFOF soil

my local shops are out as well ....yes, it sucks

'Boogieman' · Jul 16, 2020

Fox farm ocean forrest is basically worm castings, sphagnum peat moss, and a bit of perlite with kelp, crab, and other basic soil ammendments. You can easily replicate the mix yourself.

rolandomota · Jul 17, 2020

I don't know maybe buy any potting mix don't complicate your life it's not the end of the world

saluki · Jul 17, 2020

https://hydrobuilder.com/brands/fox-farm-113/fox-farm-ocean-forest-potting-soil.html

Hydrobuilder is legit. They got some in stock but its running out fast.

Buddablezz888 · Jul 17, 2020

JohnR171R said:
Been watching this website for a long time and finally joined. I have a 250 watt hps grow cab that i have been using for many years now. It works pretty good but now i have a problem. I can't find foxfarm ocean forest soil anywhere and it's the only soil i ever used that worked. I never had a problem getting it before but now it doesn't seem to be available anywhere. I'm in upstate NY.

If anybody has any suggestions i would be most thankful.

You can purchase it on EBay for $36.27 plus tax by esbenshadesgardencenter. Just purchased a bag of 1.5 cu ft. Great price!

Shmavis · Jul 17, 2020

That’s a horrible price. I pay less than $15 a bag at two different local shops. Only one of the two carries Fox Farm Original Planting Mix, though. I can get a bag of FFOF, OPM, & Light Warrior out the door for $56.

I need to get a few bags this weekend and this thread had me worried. Just checked the site and added 20 bags to my cart, seemingly without issue - no mention of not being in stock.

Possibly just a regional shortage.

zachrockbadenof · Jul 17, 2020

i paid 19.50 a bag in the spring... i'm checking now if its still in stock

JohnR171R · Jul 18, 2020

Thanks guys.

OK i called Fox farm the other day and this is what they said.

They are cranking out their product just like they always have. They claim there is no slow down on their end for any reason. The only idea they came up with was that when everybody got laid off from their jobs for covid they started gardening to keep themselves busy.

I have no idea what the reason is but thats what they told me.

JohnR171R · Jul 18, 2020

rolandomota said:
I don't know maybe buy any potting mix don't complicate your life it's not the end of the world

You must be a better grower than me. I've tried a bunch of different soils as well as tried making it myself. Ended up with nothing but yellow leaves and dead plants until fox farm.

After i tried FF my plants grew very well with no problems.

TakenByTheSky · Jul 18, 2020

JohnR171R said:
Thanks guys.

OK i called Fox farm the other day and this is what they said.

They are cranking out their product just like they always have. They claim there is no slow down on their end for any reason. The only idea they came up with was that when everybody got laid off from their jobs for covid they started gardening to keep themselves busy.

I have no idea what the reason is but thats what they told me.

I know someone that works at a grocery store and I asked about the lack of some items and they told me there is a shortage of truck drivers right now perhaps maybe the same issue is happening with soil delivery as most soil comes by palletized freight shippers.

dddaver · Jul 18, 2020

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Foxfarm-...-Potting-Soil-Mix-12-Quarts-11-9-Lbs/20594750

JohnR171R · Jul 18, 2020

TakenByTheSky said:
I know someone that works at a grocery store and I asked about the lack of some items and they told me there is a shortage of truck drivers right now perhaps maybe the same issue is happening with soil delivery as most soil comes by palletized freight shippers.

Great minds think alike. I had the exact same notion but i have no way to prove it.

yardgrazer · Jul 18, 2020

In my neck of the woods garden centers have definitely been going gangbusters since May. I'm sure border and shipping issues play a role as well, but IME garden centers are often out of a lot of garden products this late in the summer. Add increased demand and supply chain issues and...

JohnR171R · Jul 19, 2020

yardgrazer said:
In my neck of the woods garden centers have definitely been going gangbusters since May. I'm sure border and shipping issues play a role as well, but IME garden centers are often out of a lot of garden products this late in the summer. Add increased demand and supply chain issues and...

Yeah the lateness of the season is another reason i thought of for the shortage. Fortunately i have just enough left over for my next grow but I'm the kind of person who keeps a stockpile of a couple bags around as a back up. I don't wait to run out before i go shopping.

Shmavis · Aug 1, 2020

Well, the shortage is legit. Two Thursdays ago (23rd) I found my favorite local shop all out of FFOF with no ETA. Thankfully the other local shop had some but man I hate giving them my money. Without fail it’s the same every time: 5 - 8 millennial dudes sitting around behind the counter bullshitting and offering no help, not even a greeting upon entry. Terrible vibes.

For what it’s worth, John R, the woman who manages the good shop is really on top of her game and they brought in Mother Earth Groundswell soil to fill the void - so if it’s available to you it might be worth a look. She says the nutritional load is comparable to FFOF. I got a couple bags. I found it to be a heavier/denser mix. I added some Light Warrior, Fruit & Flower fertilizer, and some extra perlite. Transplanted three plants into it earlier in the week. Time will tell.

CannaRed · Aug 1, 2020

Same problems here in Virginia.
I heard that last fall they had a fire ot their plant. They were just starting to recover from the fire when covid came and knocked out the workforce.
Then on top of all that the whole world wants to plant victory gardens and grow their own food, now that they aren't working.

Dandelo · Aug 17, 2020

cheaper to replicate your own mix but you should be able to find it around, I know of 3-4 places within 20 miles that carry it by me and everyone is definitely gardening a bit more now a days.

Guest · Aug 17, 2020

Wow. You must have easy availability of coast of main soils. Be my first choice.

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