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Old 12-31-2020, 02:11 AM #371
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I am going to attempt to link to something I penned with the intention of helping men newly diagnosed. https://prostatecancer.net/stories/r...ical-part-one/
Thanks, shovelhead.

I assume by your moniker that you ride, or used to?

I had a couple of Electraglides, both 80 cu. inch Evo series, a year apart from each other (both the same models; FLHS) and before those, a bunch of others through the years. Lots of cross-country miles and memories. Mostly Japanese, but at least one British, and a French moped, too.

Thanks for the link. I'll give it a read shortly.

I just got out of bed, so am working backward a little bit; trying (literally) to get out of bed in time for the morning dose of meds and supplements, so that I don't have to wait up until midnight to take the afternoon/evening pills.

I knew last night's 'dose' of THC flowers was a little bit more than I've been consuming, but I had gotten to staring at the clock until the wee hours, too.

With the slightly increased dose, I was sleeping more quickly, but still staring at the clock until after 3:00 A.M., when I relocated to the couch in the living room.

Another day. Medical bills that are here will all get done today.

MY younger son continues to tell me he thinks I am going to beat this. I encourage him for encouraging me, but also don't want him to have the feelings I had when I was half his age, of the Universe cheating him on a heavy deal, and harboring any resentment that poisons his outlook, so I also continue to try and temper his optimism with some amount of the reality that this is all mostly unknown at this time..

Trying, I guess, as an Agnostic dad, who once challenged 'God' when I was relatively young, about life and important persons, that I don't know if there is a Supreme Deity or not, but that it seems to be many a person's beliefs who DO believe in such entities, that if the Cosmos burns you, or God fails to intervene when Nature hands you a shitty hand, it may not always be personal.

Anyway, thanks again, and welcome aboard.

And yeah, we've referenced it a few times, but there are numerous types of prostate cancers; some are like the tortoise, some are like the hare, and what we know from that parable is that what's going to win out, and when, is sometimes a bit of a surprise.
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Lyle and I think about this:
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Thanks, buzz.

I appreciate Lyle Lovett a lot. Still have that cassette here, form the earlier 1990s, when I was working in mental health. It was a fine tune then, and still is.

I still dial up his music on occasion. The memorial or tribute show they did on Austin City Limits, for Townes Van Zandt, had about a half-dozen or more well-known folks doing Townes' tunes, and Lyle Lovett and Steve Earle are on there, doing what has come to be my unofficial COVID-19 tune that I'll drop here. Both versions. Townes', and the tribute with Steve Earle and Lyle Lovett.
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'Lungs'

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Lyle Lovett & Steve Earle

TVZ tribute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1Tm9fMUWe8

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Edit: Figured this needed to be here, if the other 2 were.

The entire ACL TVZ tribute show, with Nanci Griffith, Guy Clark, Steve Earle, Lyle Lovett, Willie Nelson, and others.

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Old 12-31-2020, 06:45 AM #373
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Hey again.

We read through all 3 parts.

I thought, when we were finished, "Shit!! I could've written that."
Sounded that familiar in a number of ways, though with some distinct differences..

Yes, the ignorance or lack of knowledge of our bodies, health, etc., having specialists we look to when we don't know enough, and we place our trust in the hands of persons who may or may not really be invested in their work, and whom we often have never even met before, as they will be apt to be paid either way; whether we live or die.

In speaking with an intake person at one of the premier clinics the other day, I told him, "You know; I have a slightly better idea of what a woman with an unwanted pregnancy might feel like; there's this growth I don't want, it's taking resources from within, and there's not a fucking thing I can immediately do about it, to get it gone."

He replied it was the first time he'd heard that analogy, but that he thought it quite appropriate, aside from my stating that I loved my kids a fair bit more than I love my tumors. A WHOLE lot more, even with the heart-break of late with the 2 older ones.

Yeah, the poor fellow in the article linked to, reminded me of the sense that Murphy is one callous bastard; seemingly going out of His way when the odds are already stacked, to amp up the number of stressors. Like a test of sorts, to see where the breaking point might be.

Anyway, thanks again. I signed up for the forums there at the site you linked to sh.

I'm a little behind for what I had mapped out for chores today, so I'm taking a break, then back to it... in hopes of not becoming so behind as I recently was.
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Finished paying the $2,000+ in medical bills that had cluttered my desk for a bit. Found one double-billing for a bill I had paid over a month and a half ago. My wife's checking the statements to be sure as to whether the hospital had cashed the first one or not.

I've found making a notebook/3-ring binder, with sections for insurance statements, and a section for healthcare providers, or at least bills for specific services or types of services, and the book needs to be kept in chronological order, so when bills or explanations of benefits come in, a quick methodical search of that booklet will tell a patient if it's legit or it needs to be paid.

I can't or won't claim the doubling of billing is always a mark of dishonesty, but again, clinics and hospitals are hurting from COVID,. from when they dropped addressing of most medical requests, to focus on the more severe needs and guard against transmission.

I'll phone the bank tomorrow, and see if they have any ideas yet, and if they don't have any further info on this, then I guess I'll grovel heavily to see if they'll waive the cancellation fee for the (apparently missing) check.

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Meant to double back around re. my reply to your last post, shovelhead.

I noted you went on a lengthy (month long?) fruit fast. I wasn't sure of you meant you avoided fruit, or ate nothing but.

If you meant the latter, and not the former, then that gets into something i wrote about a while ago; the ins and outs of trying to adapt to a new diet, abruptly, with sometimes-conflicting or competing dietary needs.

For an example, I have type II diabetes, and typically (not always, but typically) manage that quite well, with diet and activity. COVID put a stake in the heart of a minor amount of activity, and we remained active on more isolated terms.

The immediate de[pression that often accompanies the dx phase and for a while later, certainly has the capacity to cut into activity, but it's also a good opportunity for the body to psychologically adjust to the Cosmos flipping persons the bird, as well as the immune system to recharge, and get a bit healthier for the fish ahead. (Though I admit to having toyed with the question as to whether both cancer cells and normal cells grow more with adequate sleep. Still don't have anything approaching an answer yet, though).

Anyway, all of that said, Dr. Fuhrman's/Fuhrmann's advice for a healthy cancer-aware diet is very similar on the surface to some of what your article stated; a focus on beans/legumes, grains, nuts, oats, etc., with a minor presence of bulkier carbs, like potatoes, etc., and LOTS of veggies, nuts, and fruits, with the nuts, veggies and fruits being consumed at about 50% raw and 50% cooked..

All's well and good, not too difficult to achieve, saves money on groceries, improves health for the average body etc., right up until the conflicts between the cancer diet and diabetes diet come into play.

So for me, and I suspect others who have this sort of dietary tight-rope to contend with, some juggling takes place in choosing what feeds my cancer that I can get rid of, with out taking away from my other dietary needs.

I try to limit them, but these days I occasionally eat ONE organic, Turkish dried apricots, unsulfured. Supposed to be good for the liver, reduced introduction of sulfur, compared to the bright orange chemically uncool 'cots). But that's as much carb as I'll consume at any given time.

Same for dried legumes, such as black turtle beans, kidney beans, split peas, etc. I can make them in a variety of dishes that are healthy, and can include brown rice for a complete protein, but I have to watch the portion size, or I screw myself in other ways.

As I wrote months ago, it seems, in a way, it can seem like a form of penance for past lifestyle excesses, but it also reaffirms the body's ability to bounce back in resilience if given a chance... and the number of times the body is asked to do this doesn't exceed the body's ability to oblige the demands.

I've eaten my decarboxylated CBD flowers hours ago, then a while after that, I ate my decarbed THC flowers, so I'm going to go and lay down for a while, after I phone someone I promised I would call them back, catch a brief nap, seal up the bulk CBD flowers and THC flowers that aren't yet decarbed and put them into the freezer once sealed, then try to make up lost ground from the poor time and energy management of earlier in the day.


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Yes I'm an old biker from way back, the 1980 FLH is in pieces in the garage, it had 62000 on the clock and the speedo had been broken for a dozen years, so it is/was time for a refit.My current ride is a 2000 Moto Guzzi California, also have an 84 650 Guzzi I'm trying to fit a sidecar to and a 75 Guzzi 850T project.
Fruit fast, I timed it to end on Thanksgiving, it was a mono fruit fast, meaning I ate a single type of fruit only. The first 18 days were grapes only,fresh from the local Finger Lakes growers. When the grapes ran out, I switched to apples only. Ate just over a pound of grapes a day. I had been reading lately pf "frugivores" or raw foodists who claim all disease can be cured by an all raw/all fruit diet.I went from 170 to 142, but put weight back on quickly. I'm not sure such a diet is for me, especially during winter in NY. My argument is against eating South African oranges and Peruvian grapes, with all the chemicals used to ripen/preserve them in the dead of winter. The fast was prefaced by 6 months of strict vegan eating, so I had already lost 5o or so pounds.

I absolutely believe that our cancers are caused by our excessive lifestyles. When we consume more than the body can use, it is stored, either for future use or waste disposal. As our excess consumption continues, the boy begins to store excess on places low on the list of organs necessary for daily survival. The older we get, the body figures reproductive system isn't getting much use, lets store it in the breasts, or uterus, or prostate. It's an accumulation of our dietary sins. Can it be reversed,can the body heal itself if left to its own devices? Maybe. In any event, that 6 or 7 month blast of healthy eating lowered my PSA 10 percent. I've been mostly cruising since Thanksgiving, I promised the wife she'd have turkey when we started back in May, when it looked like we weren't going to die from the virus. Incidentally, the wife is Type 2 also. She has managed to beat it back and is curretly off any diabetic meds, although these 2 months of cheating are having a negative effect on her numbers.

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Well, it seems the glitches in double-post-ville got me again. Both posts erased instead of the one.. again... Hmmm.

Anyone else feeling like Forrest Gump on occasion?

I decided... no, there was no conscious decision, so we'll start over here.....

Upon my wife's opening of the Spanish sparkling wine she'd purchased for New Years' (there, that's a more honest telling), at some point, after the first glass, (it's almost always some where past the 1st glass, btw) I decided to get a bit tipsy, full-well -knowing-, consciously, in the more sober, and better reinforced part of my brain, that this is counter-productive to whipping 'invasive adenocarcinoma,' but, none the less, I engaged in more common human pet tricks or antics..... I consciously agreed to finish that bottle with my wife....

I wish someone would create a more visible barrier between what we know to not be healthy, and our actions. But tonight, I am glad they have not.. Guilt sucks. Were it not for guilt being our primary communication between conscience and action, I would say, "Ban that shit!!"

Maybe I was born & raised Catholic?

Anyway, here I am, a cancer ridden pot head, resorting to alcohol and, if life gets any more serious, religion or hallucinogens. This seems to be a make-or-break moment?

My daughter says she's doing her best to be a decent human being (I think we have some different standards, and definitely dictionaries), Trump claims to have won the election, and my cancer is smugly calling the shots.

Yep, Murphy and Alfred E Newman are running the world.

I'd ask if 2021 can be much worse, but I'm typically leery of daring or provoking fate.. these days..

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Did the same, it's called being alive and celebrating it. I made sure there were only 6 beers in the house. But I hurt the Irish whiskey. That's all Tesve been on a break from super healthy eating, and have actually eaten meat a dozen or so time since Thanksgiving. But the New Year is a good time to resolve to do better.

Both my younger brother and my uncle have been diagnosed with prostate cancer since my dx. My brother at age 58, chose radiation and hormone therapy. He says he isn't all that happy, has destroyed his sex drive and performance. Testosterone levels undetectable. PSA zero though. Treatment was 2 years ago. My uncle at age 76 had his PSA rise from 2.5 to 3 and had his removed. That was 4 years ago. He says "I'm impotent and incontinent, but I'm cancer free."

Tomorrow I am converting all my bud, trim, and roaches to oil. Going to quit smoking pot until my next harvest, 60 or so days away. I haven't gone a day without smoking pot in 50 years. Hoping to buy some oil online if anyone knows a reputable source I'd appreciate it.

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Did the same, it's called being alive and celebrating it. I made sure there were only 6 beers in the house. But I hurt the Irish whiskey. That's all Tesve been on a break from super healthy eating, and have actually eaten meat a dozen or so time since Thanksgiving. But the New Year is a good time to resolve to do better.

Both my younger brother and my uncle have been diagnosed with prostate cancer since my dx. My brother at age 58, chose radiation and hormone therapy. He says he isn't all that happy, has destroyed his sex drive and performance. Testosterone levels undetectable. PSA zero though. Treatment was 2 years ago. My uncle at age 76 had his PSA rise from 2.5 to 3 and had his removed. That was 4 years ago. He says "I'm impotent and incontinent, but I'm cancer free."

Tomorrow I am converting all my bud, trim, and roaches to oil. Going to quit smoking pot until my next harvest, 60 or so days away. I haven't gone a day without smoking pot in 50 years. Hoping to buy some oil online if anyone knows a reputable source I'd appreciate it.

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Neither of your family members' outcomes sound too encouraging, but we know those cases and results exist.

Do either of them really regret acting on their conditions? If so, have they said they'd do anything different?

Edit: Do you know if they spent much time shopping for different treatment methods and/or Docs?

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I'm still trying to get my schedule and Ma' nature's schedule in synch with each other, where extract is concerned. Who knows when that might be?

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Up MUCH earlier today than recently.

Still have some (inflammation? Sense of pressure?) to prostate and general surrounding area, but what was most alarming was waking up from a dream, feeling like I was suffocating, with VERY low humidity in the house at the moment.

I headed to the restroom, cupped my hands, and sort of half-way snorted tap water, trying to do something to expand my O2 intake.

On my way back to bed, realized more fully I'd had a vivid dream, in which half of my face was swollen like a melon, one eye was swollen shut, and I'd felt like I was suffocating..

Still coming down off the (mild to moderate) panicked feeling of pressured or insufficient breathing. I can't say I've ever had THAT dream before, nor the experience of panicked breathing. That sucked hugely.

That, coupled with a serious difficulty getting warm last night, had me asking my wife to check my temp, and yet n additional consideration of COVID.

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Re. the wine, or almost anything else alcohol-related, most days lately, I'll typically have 4-5 oz. (just over half of a medium-small wine glass) x 1. Last night I had 2-1/2 smaller champagne glasses, and that was plenty.

I read that beer was a negative for cancer, and already knew it had more carbohydrates, where diabetes is concerned. Tequila came up as more or less neutral (though the liver and kidney protested that conclusion), and red wine, at least in a couple of articles, in amounts similar to what I drink, was described as beneficial in general... That more or less defined my return to red wine. And away from good dark craft beers, which I really like, but not as much as other aspects of living.

----------------------------Anyway, I'm on to medical filings, and then see if I can make up for the early rising with another mini-nap.

Who knows? Maybe this coming summer, if this life of leisure continues, I may have to put in a shuffle board area, and maybe some horse shoes!!

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Did the same, it's called being alive and celebrating it. I made sure there were only 6 beers in the house. But I hurt the Irish whiskey. That's all Tesve been on a break from super healthy eating, and have actually eaten meat a dozen or so time since Thanksgiving. But the New Year is a good time to resolve to do better.

Both my younger brother and my uncle have been diagnosed with prostate cancer since my dx. My brother at age 58, chose radiation and hormone therapy. He says he isn't all that happy, has destroyed his sex drive and performance. Testosterone levels undetectable. PSA zero though. Treatment was 2 years ago. My uncle at age 76 had his PSA rise from 2.5 to 3 and had his removed. That was 4 years ago. He says "I'm impotent and incontinent, but I'm cancer free."

Tomorrow I am converting all my bud, trim, and roaches to oil. Going to quit smoking pot until my next harvest, 60 or so days away. I haven't gone a day without smoking pot in 50 years. Hoping to buy some oil online if anyone knows a reputable source I'd appreciate it.

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I can't help with any reputable THC extract sources, but I can shoot you a PM re. accessing CBD flower and extract (*I opted for CBD flowers, in bulk, as I can eventually do extraction myself once the weather decides I ought to, and I can decarb and chew them until I can do the solvents outside.

PM will be headed out shortly.
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