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Old 12-02-2017, 05:21 PM #51
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I started a few plants inside a few years back and put them outdoors at the beginning of June. Overnight frosts happen into the first week of June so the season is too short to plant Poppies in the ground.

The bumble bee picture was included because the bees seemed to like the pods and ignore the flowers.

I had an acquaintance try greenhouse growing for a few seasons. He harvested several hundred plants at a time until the FBI used his garden as leverage for testimony in another case. Powerful incentive to talk with a twenty year felony hanging in the balance.
Intent is often at the discretion of the officer in charge.
He no longer grows Poppies, good decision.
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Meanwhile, back in the bud room...

The Dandelion leaves have over run the edges of the 12" single container and the extra wrinkly leaves that will later develop stems have made their appearance.
These new leaves will grow several inches then a tightly coiled center will extend into a stem with a single flower at the end.
Lots of healthy green wrinkled and knobby leaves means lots of flowers, and each flower has a seed pod as a center.
The garden's personal best is 40 flowers in a single container, single plants top out around 25, not many singles were grown so the number is not exact.

The wrinkly leaves are a good sign, right on time. Three weeks to flowers will make the veg time two months even.
Flowering to dry seeds should be another two months after that.

Nothing new will happen until the stems get long right between Christmas and New Year's.
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Old 01-02-2018, 07:55 AM #53
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It is new year's day and still no stems. The leaves are standing straight up and no longer resemble Dandelions.
The leaves the stems and flowers will grow from are all standing tall in the center. These are the leaves with the wrinkly fractal edges, each will grow a stem with a bright red and white Danish Flag pattern.
Dwarf Danish Flag is the official name, developed as an ornamental with profuse flowers. Its lineage just happened to be Tasmanian as that was where the white cross came from.
Seeds are readily available online. Seeds produced from flowers are dark tan, rather than black, with a sweeter taste.

The photos show the leaves standing up in the large (7 gallon) and small (3.5 gallon) containers.
The large container should have about 70 flowers while the small is expecting 20 to 30.

Red photos are full 1500 watts, blue photos have almost all the red turned off. Trying for an elusive happy medium.

A new year, a fortuitous beginning.
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Old 01-16-2018, 05:08 PM #54
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Planted at the end of October, the flower pods have shown up in the middle of January.

The flower petals are inside the waterproof clamshell, when large enough to no longer fit the shell pops in halves and the petals unfold like a butterfly out of a cocoon.
It is really pretty for the few days before the petals drop and the seedpod turns upside down.
Before turning upside down most pods will shoot up another foot, putting the seedpod itself way too close to the light. The growlights are at an angle around the plants to allow for this upward growth without burning the seeds.
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Old 01-18-2018, 02:14 AM #56
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Here are a couple links.
The first is a source of inexpensive seeds. After this short tutorial I expect others may want to add a Poppy to their garden.
Second is outdoor poppy growing areas in the USA and Federal Law concerning growing opium poppies in America.

Using the reverse lighting, veg at 12/12 and flower at 18/6, the same nutrients can also be used.
General Hydroponics three part is being used. Watering is done from the same reservoir. Any system made for marijuana can be used for poppy.

https://www.onestoppoppyshoppe.com/p...danish-flag-b8
https://gobotany.newenglandwild.org/...er/somniferum/
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First flower showed up 84 days after germination.
Seedpods should be done in about six weeks if memory serves.
The petals only appeared hours ago, the inside cannot yet be seen.
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I did try to cultivate this beautiful flower but my seedlings died. Does anyone know why this might happend? Is there some kind of special envoirment or soil that seedlings need?

I can get seeds of var. Tasmania, Afghan blue, Big joe, The Giant, Sissinghurst White and Danebrog. Is any of these well suited for indoor cultivation?

Phaeton you grow Danish flag or Daneborg indoors right? Did you mean by milligram of extract the latex or alkaloids? Is this number from your own experiments?

I think I will use led lighting because I can add them to end of arm and then place the light to shine to bods and to leaves. I think this is better idea than illuminating plant from one distance.

How many watts of lighting I should use for bods or leaves? How far away? I dont have light meter.

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Poppies use a lot more light than marijuana. The seedlings need full light from before they emerge.
Starting forty jiffy pots of poppies and rinsing all the dirt off one each day showed a half inch seedling with up to eighteen inch roots all thinner than hairs on my arm. No transplanting those safely.
It takes a lot of energy to grow roots that long, but the thinness requires length.
In these photos a 1000 watt veg area (4' by 4') had another 540 watts added for best growth. This is a bit too much for the marijuana plant usually in the spot. Poppy vegging is done in the bud room, the container with the seedling is put even with the top of the marijuana plants for proper intensity.

Three days after first flower the petals have fallen off and a green seed pod is maturing.
Meanwhile another 14 flower pods have opened. Only 53 to go in the seven gallon container.
The three gallon container was allowed an extra week of veg but still is undersized in comparison. The seven gallon container has three plants, each of which exceeds the single plant in the three gallon container.
When the seed pod is ripe the seeds will be counted.

The seed pods have the equivalent effect of 4 mg of morphine sulfate if eaten whole so they should be kept out of reach of children until too dry to eat.
This should be easy as the pods dry on the stems, allowing the autumn winds to disperse the seeds only when blowing hard.
Outdoor strains use a single pod 4' to 6' above the ground, dwarf strains use multiple pods closer to the ground.
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