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Old 10-24-2018, 02:57 AM #41
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Ahhh... good to know the word is getting out, and I appreciate the accolades.

@CrushnYuba We've hijacked this thread. Would you be so kind as to answer the last questions I had in another CHS thread instead?

I'm sure those looking for info on using neem cake would appreciate it.
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Ahhh... good to know the word is getting out, and I appreciate the accolades.

@CrushnYuba We've hijacked this thread. Would you be so kind as to answer the last questions I had in another CHS thread instead?

I'm sure those looking for info on using neem cake would appreciate it.

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Doug has no studies to show you...
Big Fucking deal!


If he wants to take on trying to figure out WHY he was sick and has correlated it with neem... Who are you to question him?
Let him do what he thinks he needs to do!
Maybe something will be figured out because of HIS work.


He's NOT bothering you so why are you making every effort to stop what he is doing?
there is only ONE consistent fact about CHS that all cases report: that is the chronic use of cannabis...in this thread alone a member with CHS have stated they DON'T use neem...

if neem caused CHS then why haven't more people got CHS? plenty of growers use neem/aza products but the cases of CHS are thankfully very low compared to the growing/smoking population.

and again where is MY CHS? i use neem meal and neem oil on my plants and use it as insect repellent, rubbing it directly on my skin. I provide cannabis to those with poor health and compromised immune systems and they don't have CHS...

...and again, neem has been used for 1000's of years in agriculture and personal health and CHS is a very recent diagnoses...WHY?

Doug aka The Clean Game has been banned from IC previously he has been sprouting this nonsense for a while now and as EB mentioned his rantings have been picked up by numerous blogs, forums etc...it's FAKE news...

i doubt that i will be able to ever stop Dougy and his misinformation but surely i am 'allowed' to question and present opposing facts to his posts? if he was just looking out for himself it wouldn't be an issue but he is presenting this information as FACT with absolutely NO EVIDENCE to back it up...
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It’s not the concern about Neem that rubs folks the wrong way and it’s certainky not the concern for others that some people find irritating; it’s the putting forth of suspicion as fact and the personal experience as scientific evidence proving something. Words matter. Imagine the reaction had some been said like, “Hey, just to warn you, there’s been some concern lately that...and my personal experience has been..... Just wanted you to know so you can make an informed decision.” Instead of, “DONT USE IT - it’ll give you CHS and maybe kill you!’ Lol!

Maybe there is a connection between Neem and CHS; but given the incredibly widespread use of Neem and the statistically insignificant occurrence of CHS, implying that the connection is anything more than a fluke is irresponsible. IMO anyway. It’s tantamount to the old claim that cannabis is a “gateway drug” because a tiny fraction of the population has a highly overactive addiction gene. It seems likely that any connection that does actually exist is essentially an individual allergic reaction to some compound in in Neem. Just like people havevto peanuts or shellfish. Do we badmouth legumes and crustaceans because a tiny amount of the population suffers that unfortunate malady? Heck no. We pity those that have the issue and warn people that it’s always a possibility; but most of us still love dipping lobster meat in clarifies butter as often as we can afford! A little less hyperbole and a little more macro perspective would go a long way towards not rubbing people wrong. Especially for those that have used Neem extensively for long periods of time with ZERO issue.

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It’s not the concern about Neem that rubs folks the wrong way and it’s certainky not the concern for others that some people find irritating; it’s the putting forth of suspicion as fact and the personal experience as scientific evidence proving something.
I've personally proved it, using a well designed and executed study. Multiple strains, control plants, multiple application methods. There is no 'speculation' on my part, whatsoever. What's more, I've spent 7 years since then studying people and their reactions. When the studies are done by accredited people, they'll be duplicating my results.

Again, you bring up how many safe studies there are with neem, on plants which do not absorb and hold the aza like cannabis does. Those safety studies are AMAZINGLY not relevant to this discussion.

The only thing I'm confused about is the ratio of aza:natural sufferers of CHS there are. I'm guessing significantly more from aza than natural. As I previously mentioned, nearly everyone I've come across with CHS has zero issues with 'clean' cannabis.
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OK so my reply has nothing to do with Neem but the fact that you try to say you can smoke your clean cannabis 24/7 and still have clear lungs makes you come off questionable at best.
Missed this bit...

This is the difference between average and superior quality cannabis. When all I'm using is superior grown, doctors are amazed when I tell them I've been smoking 24/7 for years on end. They don't believe I smoke almost 24/7, their education says it's not possible for me to have lungs this clear.

Lately I haven't had access to such quality and I'm coughing, hacking up grey phlem in the shower, and all the other lung function problems which come with regular grown. Same thing I dealt with before learning how to grow seriously clean cannabis. If you're growing hydro, the link in my sig is a great start on the same path.
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I didn't mean to do any hijacking and i am going to check out those chs threads. I would love to hear and s share information to try to figure out this desiese over there. I was not aware there were chs threads and i never heard of the neem correlation until this thread.
Unfortunately cannabis Has always been filled with old wives tales. Very little science and a whole lot of speculation because of the legal state. People hear something and they repeat it as fact. Like fem seeds hermie or the like.
I was always under the impression that neem was pretty safe although i have never used it. I am not against using it if this its an old wives tale.

I am interested in neem meal to prevent soil Bugs. Exactly how much needs to be used for only this purpous? I can Get nutrients more balanced and cheaper from other sources. Will it kill beneficial life?
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I am interested in neem meal to prevent soil Bugs. Exactly how much needs to be used for only this purpous? I can Get nutrients more balanced and cheaper from other sources. Will it kill beneficial life?
For that purpose, 1/2 to 1cup max/cf is plenty. Mix it globally when constructing the mix.

Does no harm to beneficials.

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i did the exercise a while ago: where are these people and why don't tell anyone via any of the social media apps?

i couldn't find ONE person claiming to have 'cured' their CHS by following DC/TCG methods...not one...why is that?

if these 'accredited' people were doing tests then what accreditation do they have?
where do they work and what equipment do they use to test their results?
where do they publish their results?

come on Dougy...it's your time to shine...or not...
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