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hyposomniac
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Well I guess building a nuclear power plant on an unstable hill next to the ocean near a fault line put an end to that philosophy. Referring to 3/11/2011
Just checked the PPM of my Urine collection for the last 24 hours, its 10,000 PPM! So really you would want to dilute it 20X to get to 500ppm, and that's if using RO. at 5X dilution I killed all my summer herbs.
Thats a good one Hyposomniac,atleast you sound proper informated...
but a Japan still thinks to made Olympics 2020...
imagine all those healthy sportist run and train in enviroment
worst affected than exclusion zone around Chernobil...
Was before have more respect for Japan folks and thinked they are
smart and progressive while they showed pretty dumb if we
talk nuclear energy... those Fukushima is still burning
after 7 years and sends toxic plumes directly to
North America..
DenverVaultBoy
Member
Nuclear power was a hard choice for Japan, they needed to vastly expand energy production, rapidly, solar tech wasn't advanced or cost efficient enough yet, the first tidal power plant didn't open until 1965 in France, and due to the disruption such plants often cause to fish migration, they would have only been viable in certain areas. TEPCO was under serious criticism for the amount of pollution that conventional power plants were putting into the environment, because it was already affecting not only wildlife but the health and wellness of people living in the areas where these plants were built. So, with their ally the US preaching to the world about how clean and safe nuclear power was, they made, in retrospect, the wrong call.
General Electric provided the reactors for the first two units built. Ironically enough, their sister plant just 7.5m to the south was obviously also hit by the Tsunami, but was able to safely reach cold state shut down on all their reactors. That disaster was a complicated matter, it wasn't until 1990 when the USNRC began its warnings about the safety of nuclear power plants in seismically active areas of the world, TEPCO suffered issues of corruption resulting in the Data Falsification Scandal and before things could be figured out so as to be able to refurbish the plant safely, the Tsunami hit. They had already previously shut down the Kazimazaki plant due to similar safety concerns after an earthquake in 2008, and it resulted in the first year of losses the company had ever reported in its history, this left management scared to make a move in either direction, and their stalling led to the disaster.
DenverVaultBoy
Member
Yeah i'm not informed at all, I just happen to know the history of TEPCO, the company that ran the plant, but whatever dude, keep the underhanded insults flowing.
DenverVaultBoy
Member
My apologies for misinterpreting your words, the Fukushima incident has been a heavy topic of study for me, a lot of ignorance has been spread about what actually took place, so I tend to get a little touchy about it.
No problemo DenverVaultBoy,
think its a huge tragedy those what happends but a fact is that this was mostly human
mistake,from position of NP to facts that reactors was haved cracks,then those generators
for cooling was destroyed by tsunami wave and NP left whithouth cooling,then criticality
happends and reactors goes mayhem exploding with huge explosions..
am readed data that burned uranium in micro balls was fly from explosions to
100 kilometers or more.. so just detonations are spreaded radioactivity on huge area..
plume just added fine particles all around and spreaded radiation even more..
so no matter on Japan high devepment level and such a great trusts of brains
there happends things that push country in a matter of days in dangerous place
to live,polution of worst kind since this radionuclides have huge time of lasting
inside nature and they will kill life for millenias if not much much longer..
This song somehow catches what i wish to say...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5oO0PT_-Ao
Depeche Mode - Going Backwards (Video)
think its a huge tragedy those what happends but a fact is that this was mostly human
mistake,from position of NP to facts that reactors was haved cracks,then those generators
for cooling was destroyed by tsunami wave and NP left whithouth cooling,then criticality
happends and reactors goes mayhem exploding with huge explosions..
am readed data that burned uranium in micro balls was fly from explosions to
100 kilometers or more.. so just detonations are spreaded radioactivity on huge area..
plume just added fine particles all around and spreaded radiation even more..
so no matter on Japan high devepment level and such a great trusts of brains
there happends things that push country in a matter of days in dangerous place
to live,polution of worst kind since this radionuclides have huge time of lasting
inside nature and they will kill life for millenias if not much much longer..
This song somehow catches what i wish to say...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5oO0PT_-Ao
Depeche Mode - Going Backwards (Video)
DenverVaultBoy
Member
It took a global nuclear disaster to trigger the invention of radiation neutralizing nano-technology in the fiction "Ghost in the Shell", hard times have a way of forcing progress.
The US convinced them to buy into nuclear power, sold them their first reactors, the US government of those days is probably just as responsible for the implementation of nuclear power as the Japanese government, hm, we sent something really big and expensive over to Japan that exploded and irradiated populated areas, why does that story sound familiar...?
hyposomniac
Active member
So how's it looking at fuku now?
I was pretty interested when it happened, it became an obsession, I even moved to the southern hemisphere to escape at one point.
It became impossible to decipher the truth, so I just had to tune out and stop stressing.
Chernobyl was among the first news stories I remember and it scared the shit outta me, that's probably why.
That and the Challenger shuttle explosion, which is why I avoid space travel.
Klompen
Active member
That's pretty strange that they died from that. Were they seedlings? I guess I don't know how much "1-2 pees" actually is in terms of volume, but even if the urine was mixed 10 parts water to 1 part urine it shouldn't fry the plants in one feeding(but you didn't specify how often you did this). Urine should not be given to seedlings though. Also, if you already had a lot of nitrogen in the soil that can be loading it up pretty heavily. Urine can also cause massive release of potassium if there's woody material in the medium because it rapidly speeds up degradation of cellulose.
Its important to also consider that the nitrates and other nutrients can take a while to break down so one can make the mistake of adding more because it doesn't seem to be giving results immediately. It helps to let the urine sit for a month or two at least and then decant it. Then let it sit a month or two more and decant it again. This gets fats, salts, and other junk out of it.
Klompen
Active member
Have you been offered space flights often?
DenverVaultBoy
Member
Admittedly not very good, containment efforts were very improvised for much longer than they should have been, they were attempting to keep the contaminated water from reaching the ocean by freezing it for God's sake. More effort is being made, but in my opinion it's still not enough, not by a long shot.
You can get the details for all the steps being taken both to prosecute those responsible and clean up the site at
https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/focus/fukushima/status-update
Honestly it is a tie between rabbit guano and guinea pig guano as far as proper NPK ratios, I researched this a long time ago, I will try to find the article if it still exists, I wrote an entire play about George Washington traveling forward in time and I can't find it anywhere, but all that aside, I found some scientific journals and research papers about guinea pig guano and it had the exact NPK ratio down to the hundredths place, and it was optimal except that you would have to boost the P during flowering because the P levels were just slightly low....
kind regards from guineapig
kind regards from guineapig OkieSmokie
Member
Just in case no one has mentioned it yet in this thread...
https://www.weblife.org/humanure/
I did actually read this book. I learned a lot about composting. A whole lot.
No i do not compost my crap. Yes i still flush my toilet. I do piss on the compost pile any time i'm outside and need to go.
But, i am convinced that one could safely compost human crap and successfully use it as fertilizer. Using it fresh is risky.
https://www.weblife.org/humanure/
I did actually read this book. I learned a lot about composting. A whole lot.
No i do not compost my crap. Yes i still flush my toilet. I do piss on the compost pile any time i'm outside and need to go.
But, i am convinced that one could safely compost human crap and successfully use it as fertilizer. Using it fresh is risky.
St. Phatty
Active member
There is one other option.
I'm afraid my chickens made this point, by what they did to the area where I dump the used kitty litter.
I didn't want to think about it too much. But the conclusion is becoming more obvious. The chickens are eating the cat turds.
Something tells me they would also eat human turds.
Fortunately I have a system set up that allows me to not handle human turds. AKA the toilet.
I'm afraid my chickens made this point, by what they did to the area where I dump the used kitty litter.
I didn't want to think about it too much. But the conclusion is becoming more obvious. The chickens are eating the cat turds.
Something tells me they would also eat human turds.
Fortunately I have a system set up that allows me to not handle human turds. AKA the toilet.
Honestly it is a tie between rabbit guano and guinea pig guano as far as proper NPK ratios, I researched this a long time ago, I will try to find the article if it still exists, I wrote an entire play about George Washington traveling forward in time and I can't find it anywhere, but all that aside, I found some scientific journals and research papers about guinea pig guano and it had the exact NPK ratio down to the hundredths place, and it was optimal except that you would have to boost the P during flowering because the P levels were just slightly low....
I got guineapigs just for their guano, 3 of them, then on vacation a neighbours dog showed up on the rural farm and slaughtered all 3 on the field. It was a sad sight. I harvested a total of around 10-20 Gallons of Guano though, and have used that in my soil. I think of them whenever I see a little poop floating in the top of the soil mix pot.
RIP, Big Mama (14 months), Stretch (8 months), Wookie (6 months).
Turns out I was pretty allergic, and I wouldn't be able to give them a good home forever so I suppose its all for the best.
many beasts find the human turd delightful
interesting article in some magazine about an american couple in the philippine countryside
domesticated pigs love human poo, quite the combination with outhouses
the pigs could tell they had to do #2 just by the way they walked
get to the outhouse and a snout would be sticking out waiting
not an experience most people want, they had to use a 'pig stick' to keep them away during the process
interesting article in some magazine about an american couple in the philippine countryside
domesticated pigs love human poo, quite the combination with outhouses
the pigs could tell they had to do #2 just by the way they walked
get to the outhouse and a snout would be sticking out waiting
not an experience most people want, they had to use a 'pig stick' to keep them away during the process
hyposomniac
Active member
Just last week at the park, this dude named 'the muffin man' told me I could go ok n a space flight, and that the first one is free!
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