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Old 06-15-2013, 07:26 PM #21
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MrS im pretty sure that the malt thing is a watering/soil drench rather than foliar. i think its a sugar type deal like molasses but with extra enzymes and goodness.

weird, nice, is the colouful pic a bubba? looks close...

was wondering, everyone, what was the last thing you changed/added to your grows that really made a difference?
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Going organic is giving me some awesomely large plants this year... must be the worm castings and other goodness that is alive in that soil now... instead of dead compacted earth with chemical nutrient drenches we now have some life out there in the garden
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The thing i added or changed was the addition of my own nutrient rich diverse home made worm castings.

Also I just lucked out and found the mother load of compfrey, so I have nice layer of compfrey it really keeps the surface of the soil nice moist and active.

I have also stared using Coconut water, i have to say damn nice growth response with that as well.

Personally I feel after you get a good soil mix, Worm castings and a good mulch of living and dead plants really helps keep the soil alive and happy. The rest (coconut, aloe, sprouts, teas) are just boosters. The plants will produce most of the same things on their own in a happy healthy soil.

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Old 06-15-2013, 08:15 PM #24
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The guys in the big plants thread use it foliar and it's in the recipe for that discontinued "Brix-Mix", which was discontinued because the bottles exploded in transit. The company was kind enough to give out the recipe. You'll recognize most of the ingredients, the BRIX crew is on a parallel path I think. Credit goes to user rootzbelow,

"this is the recipe that PVFS sent me if you would like to make your own......


The following are the proportions of ingredients we used in our Brix Mixes


Feel free to change the blend to suit your needs and the availability of the ingredients. You do not have to use every ingredient for the mix to be beneficial. For example: if you don’t have Phytamin 4-3-4, you could sub a liquid fish or a dry fish powder, like HFPC hydrolyzed fish. If you prefer, you can use a liquid kelp extract in place of maxicrop. If you don’t have a trace mineral deficiency, you can do without the MB powdered chelates. Keep in mind that kelps, such as maxicrop, do provide some trace minerals. If you don’t have access to a liquid sulfur, just leave it out of the blend.




Liquid Brix Mix


16.5% Molasses

16.5% non GMO pure Malt

25% Phytamin 4-3-4

24% Humax

16.5% liquid sulfur

1.5% Therm-X 70






Dry Brix Mix


13% Maxicrop

19% Fertall MB Powdered Chelates

31% Powdered sugar

37% Diamond K soluble Sulfate of Potash"

I was planning on doing a foliar spray of TM-7 today (1/4t/gal.), and decided to add some of our school of thought and the BRIX school as the above recipe was a little vague in doses and I don't have much of the ingredients. To the TM-7 I added 2T/gal of Neptune's Harvest fish fertilizer, 1T/gal diastatic malt, 1/4c(4T)/gal of aloe vera extract (I use the Lakewood brand, you want something without preservatives but remember to put it in the refrigerator once it's open), 1/4c(4T)/gal coconut water, and 1T/gal of unsulphured blackstrap molasses.

I was thinking of adding 1T/gal of either kelp, or a smaller dose of neem oil but don't want to introduce any more factors on a first go and would want to bubble the kelp for a bit anyway.
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Weird; I think you win so far on yield with that number one photo.

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I've had success using coconut flour as a substitute for coco water. Currently using one tbs flour bubbled for a few hours in water, then dilluted to five gallons with fulvic. Increased vigor in veg, and frost in flower so far.


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Hey everybody!

Some lovely nugs in here.

Here is a shot of my current garden after 7 days in flower. Grown in my own recycled mix consisting of peat, compost, perlite, forest duff, alfalfa, plant-tone, DE, bentonite, oyster shell and probably a couple of things I'm forgetting.



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Must have missed something again.

Thanks for getting this thread going. I've been off and on with all sorts of different organics, but now i'm working on building soil from scratch again. Lots of stuff in there similar to shrimp's stuff with a few other odds and ends thrown in. Been using sprout solution with great effects.

Alfalfa, oats, barley... got true comfrey and the bocking cultivar, a few types of yarrow, mints out the wazoo, and a whole lotta other plants

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the comfrey plants get quite big. here is a 10 year old bocking 14 cultivar.
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