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Trumps United Nations speech

Anybody else see Donald Trumps speech to the UN? As somebody that didn't vote for Trump, and can find problems with Trump, I really liked this speech. I would love to see the USA pull away from globalism, and it seems like Donald does as well. Your thoughts?

[YOUTUBEIF]https://youtu.be/_cPfh0hBPwA[/YOUTUBEIF]


https://youtu.be/_cPfh0hBPwA

Key points in his speech:
Global governance
“Each of us here today is the emissary of a distinct culture, a rich history, and a people bound together by ties of memory, tradition, and the values that make our homelands like nowhere else on Earth. That is why America will always choose independence and cooperation over global governance, control, and domination … America is governed by Americans. We reject the ideology of globalism, and we embrace the doctrine of patriotism. Around the world, responsible nations must defend against threats to sovereignty not just from global governance, but also from other, new forms of coercion and domination.”

Islamic State (ISIS)
“Thanks to the United States military and our partnership with many of your nations, I am pleased to report that the bloodthirsty killers known as ISIS have been driven out from the territory they once held in Iraq and Syria. We will continue to work with friends and allies to deny radical Islamic terrorists any funding, territory or support, or any means of infiltrating our borders.”

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad
“The ongoing tragedy in Syria is heartbreaking. Our shared goals must be the de-escalation of military conflict, along with a political solution that honors the will of the Syrian people. In this vein, we urge the United Nations-led peace process be reinvigorated. But, rest assured, the United States will respond if chemical weapons are deployed by the Assad regime. I commend the people of Jordan and other neighboring countries for hosting refugees from this very brutal civil war.”

Iran
“Every solution to the humanitarian crisis in Syria must also include a strategy to address the brutal regime that has fueled and financed it: the corrupt dictatorship in Iran. Iran’s leaders sow chaos, death, and destruction. They do not respect their neighbors or borders, or the sovereign rights of nations. Instead, Iran’s leaders plunder the nation’s resources to enrich themselves and to spread mayhem across the Middle East and far beyond. The Iranian people are rightly outraged that their leaders have embezzled billions of dollars from Iran’s treasury, seized valuable portions of the economy, and looted the people’s religious endowments, all to line their own pockets and send their proxies to wage war. Not good.”

The Iran Nuclear Deal
“The Iran deal was a windfall for Iran’s leaders. In the years since the deal was reached, Iran’s military budget grew nearly 40 percent. The dictatorship used the funds to build nuclear-capable missiles, increase internal repression, finance terrorism, and fund havoc and slaughter in Syria and Yemen.

“The United States has launched a campaign of economic pressure to deny the regime the funds it needs to advance its bloody agenda. Last month, we began re-imposing hard-hitting nuclear sanctions that had been lifted under the Iran deal. Additional sanctions will resume November 5th, and more will follow. And we’re working with countries that import Iranian crude oil to cut their purchases substantially.

“We cannot allow the world’s leading sponsor of terrorism to possess the planet’s most dangerous weapons. We cannot allow a regime that chants ‘Death to America,’ and that threatens Israel with annihilation, to possess the means to deliver a nuclear warhead to any city on Earth. Just can’t do it.”

‘So-called experts’
“America’s policy of principled realism means we will not be held hostage to old dogmas, discredited ideologies, and so-called experts who have been proven wrong over the years, time and time again. This is true not only in matters of peace, but in matters of prosperity.”

‘Bad trade deals’
“We believe that trade must be fair and reciprocal. The United States will not be taken advantage of any longer. For decades, the United States opened its economy — the largest, by far, on Earth — with few conditions. We allowed foreign goods from all over the world to flow freely across our borders. Yet, other countries did not grant us fair and reciprocal access to their markets in return. Even worse, some countries abused their openness to dump their products, subsidize their goods, target our industries, and manipulate their currencies to gain unfair advantage over our country. As a result, our trade deficit ballooned to nearly $800 billion a year. For this reason, we are systematically renegotiating broken and bad trade deals.”

China
“The United States lost over 3 million manufacturing jobs, nearly a quarter of all steel jobs, and 60,000 factories after China joined the WTO. And we have racked up $13 trillion in trade deficits over the last two decades. But those days are over. We will no longer tolerate such abuse. We will not allow our workers to be victimized, our companies to be cheated, and our wealth to be plundered and transferred. America will never apologize for protecting its citizens.

“The United States has just announced tariffs on another $200 billion in Chinese-made goods for a total, so far, of $250 billion. I have great respect and affection for my friend President Xi, but I have made clear our trade imbalance is just not acceptable. China’s market distortions and the way they deal cannot be tolerated.”

The U.N. Human Rights Council
“I spoke before this body last year and warned that the U.N. Human Rights Council had become a grave embarrassment to this institution, shielding egregious human rights abusers while bashing America and its many friends. Our Ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, laid out a clear agenda for reform, but despite reported and repeated warnings, no action at all was taken. So the United States took the only responsible course: We withdrew from the Human Rights Council, and we will not return until real reform is enacted.”

The International Criminal Court (ICC)
“The United States will provide no support in recognition to the International Criminal Court. As far as America is concerned, the ICC has no jurisdiction, no legitimacy, and no authority. The ICC claims near-universal jurisdiction over the citizens of every country, violating all principles of justice, fairness, and due process. We will never surrender America’s sovereignty to an unelected, unaccountable, global bureaucracy.”

The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC)
“OPEC and OPEC nations, are, as usual, ripping off the rest of the world, and I don’t like it. Nobody should like it. We defend many of these nations for nothing, and then they take advantage of us by giving us high oil prices. Not good. We want them to stop raising prices, we want them to start lowering prices, and they must contribute substantially to military protection from now on. We are not going to put up with it — these horrible prices — much longer.”

Illegal immigration and ‘uncontrolled migration’
“The United States is also working with partners in Latin America to confront threats to sovereignty from uncontrolled migration. Tolerance for human struggling and human smuggling and trafficking is not humane. It’s a horrible thing that’s going on, at levels that nobody has ever seen before. It’s very, very cruel.

“Illegal immigration funds criminal networks, ruthless gangs, and the flow of deadly drugs. Illegal immigration exploits vulnerable populations, hurts hardworking citizens, and has produced a vicious cycle of crime, violence, and poverty. Only by upholding national borders, destroying criminal gangs, can we break this cycle and establish a real foundation for prosperity.”

The Global Compact for Migration
“We recognize the right of every nation in this room to set its own immigration policy in accordance with its national interests, just as we ask other countries to respect our own right to do the same — which we are doing. That is one reason the United States will not participate in the new Global Compact on Migration. Migration should not be governed by an international body unaccountable to our own citizens.”

Venezuela
“Currently, we are witnessing a human tragedy, as an example, in Venezuela. More than 2 million people have fled the anguish inflicted by the socialist Maduro regime and its Cuban sponsors. Not long ago, Venezuela was one of the richest countries on Earth. Today, socialism has bankrupted the oil-rich nation and driven its people into abject poverty … We ask the nations gathered here to join us in calling for the restoration of democracy in Venezuela. Today, we are announcing additional sanctions against the repressive regime, targeting Maduro’s inner circle and close advisors.”

Socialism
“Virtually everywhere socialism or communism has been tried, it has produced suffering, corruption, and decay. Socialism’s thirst for power leads to expansion, incursion, and oppression. All nations of the world should resist socialism and the misery that it brings to everyone.”
 
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igrowone

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for the 1st time an American president was laughed at in the UN
doesn't this reach you in any way?
 
for the 1st time an American president was laughed at in the UN
doesn't this reach you in any way?

We can all use our brains here right? Lets use our own brains and think for ourselves.

What did you find funny, or worth laughing at? :tiphat:

For the record, I think it's a good thing that a group of globalist laugh at the thought of a sovereign nation. What else would you expect from the globalist?
 

igrowone

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We can all use our brains here right? Lets use our own brains and think for ourselves.

What did you find funny, or worth laughing at? :tiphat:

not the issue what i found funny or not
this is public ridicule which is an indication of how low things are becoming
USA and screw everybody else? in time it will beome apparent how well that works out
 
not the issue what i found funny or not
this is public ridicule which is an indication of how low things are becoming
USA and screw everybody else? in time it will beome apparent how well that works out

You must not of watched the speech.... did you?

If you did, you would have heard how America is the most giving country in the world, almost more than all other countries combined. This isn't about who gives more, this is about un elected globalist dictating USA laws. At no point did Trump say, or indicate screwing the rest of the world. Where and how did you come up with that? Maybe a quote or two from the speech would help out?
 

igrowone

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You must not of watched the speech.... did you?

If you did, you would have heard how America is the most giving country in the world, almost more than all other countries combined. This isn't about who gives more, this is about un elected globalist dictating USA laws. At no point did Trump say, or indicate screwing the rest of the world. Where and how did you come up with that? Maybe a quote or two from the speech would help out?

i'm referring to overall tone
America's the best, the greatest, and by implication Trump is the greatest
it's blatant ego, and that's what it looks like
it means you go our way or it won't work out well for you
so was 'screw' part of the speech? not verbatim, that was my take
which you are free to disagree with
 
i'm referring to overall tone
America's the best, the greatest, and by implication Trump is the greatest
it's blatant ego, and that's what it looks like
it means you go our way or it won't work out well for you
so was 'screw' part of the speech? not verbatim, that was my take
which you are free to disagree with

I guess I was just hoping we could talk facts, not feelings. Of course you are free to disagree. :tiphat:
 

igrowone

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I guess I was just hoping we could talk facts, not feelings. Of course you are free to disagree. :tiphat:

speech and facts seldom go together, that's not what speeches are about(usually)
now did I watch it? no - i read the transcript
which i believe counts, you do get all the facts that way
 

mean mr.mustard

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I think he just postures so he doesn't have to play nice because he's used to flexing for business deals.

Too bad nobody explained international diplomacy to him.

It's not bad to get along and bullying looks shitty on a resume.

However globalism is frightening.

So is the idea of Trump leading the nation.

And being laughed at in the UN is horribly embarrassing.... that's a fact.
 
i believe they were seeing the line 'how his administration has done more than any other'
as an outrageous boast that couldn't be taken seriously

ok...... That is politics right? I don't remember a single president that didn't get on stage and talk about how great the country is under their leadership. Obama is still on a world tour talking about how great he was.


So nobody actually listened to any of the facts from the speech? Nobody agrees with any of the policies? Or disagree with a policy for that matter? We just talk about tone and rhetoric now?
 
ok, im know im not supposed to call any one a troll but asking whats funny about trump is a little too obvious, don't you think?

I didn't ask what is funny about Trump. I asked what people were laughing at during his speech. What policies are funny to these globalist. :tiphat:
 
I will help the people that obviously didn't watch the speech. Here are some key points he made, I don't find any of them funny or ridiculous.

Global governance
“Each of us here today is the emissary of a distinct culture, a rich history, and a people bound together by ties of memory, tradition, and the values that make our homelands like nowhere else on Earth. That is why America will always choose independence and cooperation over global governance, control, and domination … America is governed by Americans. We reject the ideology of globalism, and we embrace the doctrine of patriotism. Around the world, responsible nations must defend against threats to sovereignty not just from global governance, but also from other, new forms of coercion and domination.”

Islamic State (ISIS)
“Thanks to the United States military and our partnership with many of your nations, I am pleased to report that the bloodthirsty killers known as ISIS have been driven out from the territory they once held in Iraq and Syria. We will continue to work with friends and allies to deny radical Islamic terrorists any funding, territory or support, or any means of infiltrating our borders.”

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad
“The ongoing tragedy in Syria is heartbreaking. Our shared goals must be the de-escalation of military conflict, along with a political solution that honors the will of the Syrian people. In this vein, we urge the United Nations-led peace process be reinvigorated. But, rest assured, the United States will respond if chemical weapons are deployed by the Assad regime. I commend the people of Jordan and other neighboring countries for hosting refugees from this very brutal civil war.”

Iran
“Every solution to the humanitarian crisis in Syria must also include a strategy to address the brutal regime that has fueled and financed it: the corrupt dictatorship in Iran. Iran’s leaders sow chaos, death, and destruction. They do not respect their neighbors or borders, or the sovereign rights of nations. Instead, Iran’s leaders plunder the nation’s resources to enrich themselves and to spread mayhem across the Middle East and far beyond. The Iranian people are rightly outraged that their leaders have embezzled billions of dollars from Iran’s treasury, seized valuable portions of the economy, and looted the people’s religious endowments, all to line their own pockets and send their proxies to wage war. Not good.”

The Iran Nuclear Deal
“The Iran deal was a windfall for Iran’s leaders. In the years since the deal was reached, Iran’s military budget grew nearly 40 percent. The dictatorship used the funds to build nuclear-capable missiles, increase internal repression, finance terrorism, and fund havoc and slaughter in Syria and Yemen.

“The United States has launched a campaign of economic pressure to deny the regime the funds it needs to advance its bloody agenda. Last month, we began re-imposing hard-hitting nuclear sanctions that had been lifted under the Iran deal. Additional sanctions will resume November 5th, and more will follow. And we’re working with countries that import Iranian crude oil to cut their purchases substantially.

“We cannot allow the world’s leading sponsor of terrorism to possess the planet’s most dangerous weapons. We cannot allow a regime that chants ‘Death to America,’ and that threatens Israel with annihilation, to possess the means to deliver a nuclear warhead to any city on Earth. Just can’t do it.”

‘So-called experts’
“America’s policy of principled realism means we will not be held hostage to old dogmas, discredited ideologies, and so-called experts who have been proven wrong over the years, time and time again. This is true not only in matters of peace, but in matters of prosperity.”

‘Bad trade deals’
“We believe that trade must be fair and reciprocal. The United States will not be taken advantage of any longer. For decades, the United States opened its economy — the largest, by far, on Earth — with few conditions. We allowed foreign goods from all over the world to flow freely across our borders. Yet, other countries did not grant us fair and reciprocal access to their markets in return. Even worse, some countries abused their openness to dump their products, subsidize their goods, target our industries, and manipulate their currencies to gain unfair advantage over our country. As a result, our trade deficit ballooned to nearly $800 billion a year. For this reason, we are systematically renegotiating broken and bad trade deals.”

China
“The United States lost over 3 million manufacturing jobs, nearly a quarter of all steel jobs, and 60,000 factories after China joined the WTO. And we have racked up $13 trillion in trade deficits over the last two decades. But those days are over. We will no longer tolerate such abuse. We will not allow our workers to be victimized, our companies to be cheated, and our wealth to be plundered and transferred. America will never apologize for protecting its citizens.

“The United States has just announced tariffs on another $200 billion in Chinese-made goods for a total, so far, of $250 billion. I have great respect and affection for my friend President Xi, but I have made clear our trade imbalance is just not acceptable. China’s market distortions and the way they deal cannot be tolerated.”

The U.N. Human Rights Council
“I spoke before this body last year and warned that the U.N. Human Rights Council had become a grave embarrassment to this institution, shielding egregious human rights abusers while bashing America and its many friends. Our Ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, laid out a clear agenda for reform, but despite reported and repeated warnings, no action at all was taken. So the United States took the only responsible course: We withdrew from the Human Rights Council, and we will not return until real reform is enacted.”

The International Criminal Court (ICC)
“The United States will provide no support in recognition to the International Criminal Court. As far as America is concerned, the ICC has no jurisdiction, no legitimacy, and no authority. The ICC claims near-universal jurisdiction over the citizens of every country, violating all principles of justice, fairness, and due process. We will never surrender America’s sovereignty to an unelected, unaccountable, global bureaucracy.”

The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC)
“OPEC and OPEC nations, are, as usual, ripping off the rest of the world, and I don’t like it. Nobody should like it. We defend many of these nations for nothing, and then they take advantage of us by giving us high oil prices. Not good. We want them to stop raising prices, we want them to start lowering prices, and they must contribute substantially to military protection from now on. We are not going to put up with it — these horrible prices — much longer.”

Illegal immigration and ‘uncontrolled migration’
“The United States is also working with partners in Latin America to confront threats to sovereignty from uncontrolled migration. Tolerance for human struggling and human smuggling and trafficking is not humane. It’s a horrible thing that’s going on, at levels that nobody has ever seen before. It’s very, very cruel.

“Illegal immigration funds criminal networks, ruthless gangs, and the flow of deadly drugs. Illegal immigration exploits vulnerable populations, hurts hardworking citizens, and has produced a vicious cycle of crime, violence, and poverty. Only by upholding national borders, destroying criminal gangs, can we break this cycle and establish a real foundation for prosperity.”

The Global Compact for Migration
“We recognize the right of every nation in this room to set its own immigration policy in accordance with its national interests, just as we ask other countries to respect our own right to do the same — which we are doing. That is one reason the United States will not participate in the new Global Compact on Migration. Migration should not be governed by an international body unaccountable to our own citizens.”

Venezuela
“Currently, we are witnessing a human tragedy, as an example, in Venezuela. More than 2 million people have fled the anguish inflicted by the socialist Maduro regime and its Cuban sponsors. Not long ago, Venezuela was one of the richest countries on Earth. Today, socialism has bankrupted the oil-rich nation and driven its people into abject poverty … We ask the nations gathered here to join us in calling for the restoration of democracy in Venezuela. Today, we are announcing additional sanctions against the repressive regime, targeting Maduro’s inner circle and close advisors.”

Socialism
“Virtually everywhere socialism or communism has been tried, it has produced suffering, corruption, and decay. Socialism’s thirst for power leads to expansion, incursion, and oppression. All nations of the world should resist socialism and the misery that it brings to everyone.”
 

RB56

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ok...... That is politics right? I don't remember a single president that didn't get on stage and talk about how great the country is under their leadership. Obama is still on a world tour talking about how great he was.


So nobody actually listened to any of the facts from the speech? Nobody agrees with any of the policies? Or disagree with a policy for that matter? We just talk about tone and rhetoric now?
Context is everything. The State of the Union or even a campaign speech is entirely different than addressing the UN General Assembly. If you are not intentionally trying to confuse with your statements you should consider your motives, prejudices and general sloppy thinking as obstacles to effective and useful communication and pursue goals that requite less mental horsepower. If you know what you are doing and are trying to confuse those who lack critical thinking skills, you should get a life.



They laughed at him because he is an absurd looking fat old man standing in front of the world's diplomats making personal brags that are obviously false. They are also laughing at us for electing the fool.
 

RB56

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I also want to add that the constant whining from Trump about how unfairly this country has been treated by the world and the idea that the United States is being put at risk by "globalists" indicates a complete lack of confidence in the country and just looks pathetic and weak. What country on earth do we need to fear? Let's stand up and be adults who aren't afraid of our own shadows, OK?
 
I also want to add that the constant whining from Trump about how unfairly this country has been treated by the world and the idea that the United States is being put at risk by "globalists" indicates a complete lack of confidence in the country and just looks pathetic and weak. What country on earth do we need to fear? Let's stand up and be adults who aren't afraid of our own shadows, OK?

You didn't listen to the speech at all did you? That is exactly what he was saying. Pick up the transcript at least. :tiphat:
 

RB56

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You didn't listen to the speech at all did you? That is exactly what he was saying. Pick up the transcript at least. :tiphat:
Nice try. I first heard the speech on the radio. I then saw it rebroadcast on TV. Finally read the transcript. Please don't assume that everyone else shares your lack of comprehension.
 
Context is everything. The State of the Union or even a campaign speech is entirely different than addressing the UN General Assembly. If you are not intentionally trying to confuse with your statements you should consider your motives, prejudices and general sloppy thinking as obstacles to effective and useful communication and pursue goals that requite less mental horsepower. If you know what you are doing and are trying to confuse those who lack critical thinking skills, you should get a life.



They laughed at him because he is an absurd looking fat old man standing in front of the world's diplomats making personal brags that are obviously false. They are also laughing at us for electing the fool.

Once again, can't even come up with a single point to refute, but you have the time to belittle his appearance..... Cause that is what matters.......

What brag did he make that was obviously false? You keep saying things as if they are true, but give no examples. It's called a straw man argument, and it holds no water.

I also want to add that the constant whining from Trump about how unfairly this country has been treated by the world and the idea that the United States is being put at risk by "globalists" indicates a complete lack of confidence in the country and just looks pathetic and weak. What country on earth do we need to fear? Let's stand up and be adults who aren't afraid of our own shadows, OK?

You didn't listen to the speech at all did you? It's not weak to walk away from globalist trying to dictate your countries laws...... No idea why you think that......
 
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