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Old 02-19-2018, 09:50 PM #1
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Chinamington a pedigreed variety

Figured i’d start this thread today after pulling seeds from cold storage. I’ll keep them around fifty degrees till they get sown on April tenth or so.

After collecting these on Illinois / Indiana border been chomping at the bit for spring. All work moving forward will be conducted outdoors so the genetic integrity remains intact. Pathogen, virus, bacterial resistance has been natural evolving over the last seventy five years as this strain developed by U.S.D.A and head breeder Lyster Dewey. The United States used Mr. Dewey’s lines ten years later across midwestern United States and with trial and error, helpful tips and a little luck I found the fiber line I was searching for since 2014. The farm had a new home, new barns and had obviously been focused on corn production over many generations but it also had a few concrete pads from an era gone by that once supported structures from previous buildings and with an four to five acre parcel overgrown untouched for a century gone by.

As I backed my truck up on one of a thousand intersecting rock roads so I could double back towards another spot on map I notice the towering hemp plants high above the assortment of wild grass and flowers. If not for a random u-turn before I hit intersection two blocks down near farm house, my search would still be on going as it was well into harvest season. I’ve acquired a few other hemp strains during this three year journey but like most “ ditch weed “ it’s been hybridized and constitutes plants between five / seven feet not what I was searching for. From the second I laid eyes upon these plants the search was over. Because of natural selection and survival of the fittest this strain has acclimated itself over many generations battling all elements and detriments but still holding key elements like size and structure and node spacing all attributes built by Lyster Dewy for the U.S.D.A. Assumptions regarding plants no longer grown at high density losing attributes like height, node spacing, hollowness of stem all came crashing down as these sporadic fiber plants across one acre matched the sepia-tone images from Dewey’s life’s work. Also destroyed was the assumption that these Kentucky/ U.S.D.A lost forever....

I collected all the seeds possible over three or four trips because the location near farm house and being a massive contract commercial operation warranted a carful approach. Having plant material and thousands of seeds would have carried a very heavy price as no difference found between traditional marijuana or hemp as every seed would have counted against me.

In total I’ll be starting over four thousand seeds in my bulking / production patch at forty two degree latitude only a few degree over the origination point. I also segregated seed from the tallest plant ( seventeen feet. ) ruff guess five hundred to seven hundred of these will be grown at a different location. This year will consist of bulking only. I will do further selection moving forward at that stage running upwards of one million seeds. I’ve been in contact with a few people in government and our state of Illinois should be a legal hemp production state in the heart of the Midwest some time this year.

Fiber hemp production is a totally different ballgame then most of the hemp production being undertaken across Europe and USA Today. This is a fiber line only not for CBD etc. and the infrastructure needed for processes is not incorporated in the United States at this time. China is the leader today in this marketplace.....

I’ll be ready when this changes as advancement in technology and uses for fiber are being developed quickly.

So time is on my side. I hope in the not so distant futures I can help not only the Illinois farmers but farmers across the Midwest maximize yield per square meter with a few hemp varieties. ( feminized and hybrid with this line )

Let the journey begin. I’ll update this thread along the way as this year will see this first batch of seed broadcast in a “ Guerrilla “ landscape on untouched prairie lands. Pictures will follow once I start tilling area and the spring winds start blowing and the rains and warmer air come forth from winters cold.....


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Old 02-19-2018, 11:20 PM #2
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Hi. I hope this could be helpful for you. But you must know it already.

https://naldc.nal.usda.gov/download/IND43892174/PDF

https://hempology.org/ALL%20HISTORY%2...VARIETIES.html

https://naldc.nal.usda.gov/naldc/dow...38&content=PDF

https://www.internationalhempassociat.../iha03104.html

In those documents Lyster Dewey wrote about the developement of some strains like Kymington, Chington, Ferramington, Arlington. But I found nothing about the developement of the Chinamington strain. Only it is the most productive strain of all them.

Good luck. You have a great work to do ahead.
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Old 02-19-2018, 11:40 PM #3
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Thanks @ahortator peace bro

It’s was a culmination of all his work. It was tested in the early nineteen thirties across Kentucky. The U.S.D.A disbanded the working group ( hemp breeders ) at this same time but chinamington out performed everything before it regarding yield.

Assumptions could be made about what was given farmers in the early nineteen forties for W.W. II .....

I assume it would be the best genetics available. Also, I narrowed down areas for searching using resources I’d rather not talk about until this business is up and running. ( booklets, paper clippings, documents, pamphlets etc )But if you think about fact twenty five thousand seeds are needed per acre for high density growing of fiber hemp I also understand I could never supply the vast acreage under farming today that’s why I’m focused on my region and latitude for future growth potential. But you never can tell what the future will bring

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Also most of Kentucky was used regarding seed production for the states in upper Midwest during the war effort. Kinda puts into context acreage needed / supply of seed
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It's nice how you found those original plants and seeds by random chance.

Do keep them pure.

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Are you testing for fibre content/size/strength etc.? Only because the plants are tall and good looking doesn't make them a good fibre variety. I don't want to be a spoilsports... just trying to be realistic.
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@troutman, Only Ornamental thanks for dropping in....

Only you have provided a ton of great info in many threads thanks bud and thanks trout'

Yes I will be selecting males towards higher fiber quality ..... But as you will see below, many different avenues are developing not just quality of Fiber in the traditional sense for clothing as node spacing that contains the highest quality is also important. But I will be doing so only on the small patch of 800 seeds sourced from the tallest plant. I'll be using the Bredemann technique. And selecting towards the widest node spacing that holds the best fiber content as was done by Lyster Dewey himself. But the real selection process will happen after bulking up of the 4,000 towards 1,000,000 plus seeds in the main patch. This will happen once our state becomes legal and I find partners for getting this operation off the ground. Because with each acre needing 26,000 seeds for high broadcasting rate, the scope is massive in scale. I could not even dream of doing this myself or not partnering with a seed producer already adept at large scale production. But the retting process also has a huge part in determining quality. Quality of soil, crop rotation ..... etc ... ( alpha- & hemi-cellulose, lignin lines ) ** i will not be testing for this until business is developed and testing equipment is acquired. And the USA has no infrastructure for processing Fiber Hemp so we are talking a few years unless a company say focused on plastics or supercapicitor electrodes graphene, or bio-fuel production facility could use it. In do time I will reach out towards industry leaders like those using plastics etc ....

Thanks buddy for your well wishes. I'm sure you understand the task at hand.

The key for me is the 51% ownership and control of genetics w/ plant patents and other safe guards.

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Most people don’t understand the truly diverse value of hemp (Cannabis sativa). Cultures have depended on this hardy plant for centuries for clothing, fabric, and paper. Today, it is also used for food, fuel, medicine, building materials, and plastics. Now the energy storage industry is starting to take notice, thanks to new Canadian research that shows supercapacitors with electrodes made from hemp-based carbon nanosheets outperform standard supercapacitors by nearly 200%. Graphene, a carbon nanomaterial, is considered to be one of the best materials for supercapicitor electrodes. Graphene is, however, expensive to manufacture, costing as much as $2,000 per gram. Looking for a less-costly solution, researchers at the University of Alberta/National Institute for Nanotechnology (NINT) NRC, and Alberta Innovates-Technology Futures, led by chemical and materials engineering Professor David Mitlin, developed a process for converting fibrous hemp waste into a unique graphene-like nanomaterial that outperforms graphene. What’s more, it can be manufactured for less than $500 per ton. “Our work actually opens up a very cheap and mass-producible manufacturing method for graphene-quality material—something that has never been achieved before,” says Mitlin. Activated carbons, templated carbons, carbon nanofibers, carbon nanotubes, and graphene have all been intensively studied as materials for supercapacitor electrodes. High manufacturing costs is one issue—another is that the power characteristics of many of these carbons are limited. This is a result of high microporosity, which increases ion transport limitations. “It is becoming well understood that the key to achieving high power in porous electrodes is to reduce the ion transport limitations” says Mitlin. “Nanomaterials based on graphene and their hybrids have emerged as a new class of promising high-rate electrode candidates—they are, however, too expensive to manufacture compared to activated carbons derived from pyrolysis of agricultural wastes, or from the coking operations.”

Biomass, which mainly contains cellulose and lignin by-products, is widely utilized as a feedstock for producing activated carbons. Mitlin decided to test hemp bast fiber’s unique cellular structure to see if it could produce graphene-like carbon nanosheets. Hemp fiber waste was pressure-cooked (hydrothermal synthesis) at 180 °C for 24 hours. The resulting carbonized material was treated with potassium hydroxide and then heated to temperatures as high as 800 °C, resulting in the formation of uniquely structured nanosheets. Testing of this material revealed that it discharged 49 kW of power per kg of material—nearly triple what standard commercial electrodes supply, 17 kW/kg.

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As you can see from post above the Fiber plant will have many, many uses in the future .....

And being situated in the shipping / transport hub for the USA Illinois coupled with new tax laws (20%) allows greater opportunity for future growth as manufacturing gathers pace.

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@ Only Ornamental

the importance of the Bd allele all in itself among others from these genetics can't be understated.

this line a continuum of the earliest genetics from s.w. asia and the building block used by europeans top breeders as they sourced these from Lyster who himself built upon asian foundation. even the genetics used today with China are hybrid but not the same as earlier generations.

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