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Feds scale back drug war? no MM's

Rob547

East Coast Grower
Veteran
http://news.yahoo.com/holder-proposes-changes-criminal-justice-system-040724234.html

While I was reading the article I had to double check that it wasn't from the Onion ha. Guess the Feds have been working a little to hard to lock up all those damn weed smoking minorities. Definitely a step in the right direction, but I found some of the statements made rather ironic.

""We need to ensure that incarceration is used to punish, deter and rehabilitate — not merely to convict, warehouse and forget," Holder says in the speech he's scheduled to deliver Monday."

Holder said mandatory minimum sentences "breed disrespect for the system. When applied indiscriminately, they do not serve public safety. They have had a disabling effect on communities. And they are ultimately counterproductive."

Aren't we all glad it only took what, 40 years for them to realize all this?? :biggrin:
(not even gonna start my rant on the judicial/prison system)
 

hush

Señor Member
Veteran
I've been wondering, ever since Holder gave this speech... Does this only mean that Federal mandatory minimums are being ended? I mean, the individual states have their own mandatory minimum guidelines, don't they? It says in the article that Holder wants the states to be able to handle the cases... so I'm guessing that means that any state guidelines referencing mandatory mins will not be changed.
 

dagnabit

Game Bred
Veteran
http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-w...older-s-f-announce-lifting-mandatory-minimums

Eric Holder in S.F. to announce lifting of mandatory minimums for nonviolent drug crimes

By Pete Yost

Associated Press
Posted: 08/12/2013 09:23:59 AM PDT
Updated: 08/12/2013 09:24:01 AM PDT


WASHINGTON -- With the U.S. facing massive overcrowding in its prisons, Attorney General Eric Holder is calling for major changes to the nation's criminal justice system that would scale back the use of harsh sentences for certain drug-related crimes.

In remarks prepared for delivery to the American Bar Association in San Francisco, Holder said he also favors diverting people convicted of low-level offenses to drug treatment and community service programs and expanding a prison program to allow for release of some elderly, non-violent offenders.

"We need to ensure that incarceration is used to punish, deter and rehabilitate -- not merely to convict, warehouse and forget," Holder says in the speech he's scheduled to deliver Monday.

In one important change, the attorney general is altering Justice Department policy so that low-level, non-violent drug offenders with no ties to large-scale organizations, gangs or cartels won't be charged with offenses that impose mandatory minimum sentences.

Mandatory minimum prison sentences, a product of the government's war on drugs that began in the 1980s, limit the discretion of judges to impose shorter prison sentences.

Under the altered policy, the attorney general said defendants will instead be charged with offenses for which accompanying sentences "are better suited to their individual conduct, rather than excessive prison terms more appropriate for violent criminals or drug kingpins."

The impact of Holder's initiative on mandatory minimum sentences could be significant, says Marc Mauer, executive director of the Sentencing Project, a non-profit group involved in research and policy reform of the criminal justice system.

There are roughly 25,000 drug convictions in federal court each year and 45 percent of those are for lower-level offenses such as street level dealers and couriers and people who deliver drugs, said Mauer.

The unanswered question is how each of the 94 U.S. Attorneys offices around the country will implement changes, given the authority of prosecutors to exercise discretion in how they handle their criminal cases.

African-Americans and Hispanics likely would benefit the most from a change. African-Americans account for about 30 percent of federal drug convictions each year and Hispanics account for 40 percent, according to Mauer.

If state policymakers were to adopt similar policies, the impact of changes at the state level could be even broader, said Mauer. Currently, about 225,000 state prisoners are incarcerated for drug offenses, according to the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics.

Federal prisons are operating at nearly 40 percent above capacity and hold more than 219,000 inmates -- with almost half of them serving time for drug-related crimes and many of them with substance use disorders. In addition, 9 million to 10 million prisoners go through local jails each year. Holder praised state and local law enforcement officials for already instituting some of the types of changes Holder says must be made at the federal level.

Aggressive enforcement of federal criminal laws is necessary, but "we cannot simply prosecute or incarcerate our way to becoming a safer nation," Holder said. "Today, a vicious cycle of poverty, criminality and incarceration traps too many Americans and weakens too many communities. However, many aspects of our criminal justice system may actually exacerbate this problem, rather than alleviate it."

Holder said mandatory minimum sentences "breed disrespect for the system. When applied indiscriminately, they do not serve public safety. They have had a disabling effect on communities. And they are ultimately counterproductive."

Sens. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., Mike Lee, R-Utah, and Rand Paul, R-Ky., have introduced legislation aimed at giving federal judges more discretion in applying mandatory minimums to certain drug offenders.

Holder said new approaches -- which he is calling the "Smart On Crime" initiative -- are the result of a Justice Department review he launched early this year.

The attorney general said some issues are best handled at the state or local level and said he has directed federal prosecutors across the country to develop locally tailored guidelines for determining when federal charges should be filed, and when they should not.

"By targeting the most serious offenses, prosecuting the most dangerous criminals, directing assistance to crime 'hot spots,' and pursuing new ways to promote public safety, deterrence, efficiency and fairness -- we can become both smarter and tougher on crime," Holder said.

The attorney general said 17 states have directed money away from prison construction and toward programs and services such as treatment and supervision that are designed to reduce the problem of repeat offenders.

In Kentucky, legislation has reserved prison beds for the most serious offenders and refocused resources on community supervision. The state, Holder said, is projected to reduce its prison population by more than 3,000 over the next 10 years, saving more than $400 million.

He also cited investments in drug treatment in Texas for non-violent offenders and changes to parole policies which he said brought about a reduction in the prison population of more than 5,000 inmates last year. He said similar efforts helped Arkansas reduce its prison population by more than 1,400. He also pointed to Georgia, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Hawaii as states that have improved public safety while preserving limited resources.

Holder also said the department is expanding a policy for considering compassionate release for inmates facing extraordinary or compelling circumstances, and who pose no threat to the public. He said the expansion will include elderly inmates who did not commit violent crimes and who have served significant portions of their sentences.

nother story
 

Rob547

East Coast Grower
Veteran
"we cannot simply prosecute or incarcerate our way to becoming a safer nation," Holder said. "Today, a vicious cycle of poverty, criminality and incarceration traps too many Americans and weakens too many communities. However, many aspects of our criminal justice system may actually exacerbate this problem, rather than alleviate it."

It's statements like these that make me wonder... why do we all understand this to the extent that it's mundane, but the 'govt' whoever that may be doesn't see it, or at the very least is unable to admit it until now?

you mean there are racist laws that exist in America? You're telling me that Hispanics and Blacks are arrested way more than Whites?! no way!! And when a significant amount of people in already impoverished areas are locked up on first convictions and have their lives ruined by this it hurts the community?? no way!
 

huligun

Professor Organic Psychology
Veteran
What they are talking about is scaling back Federal Prosecutions and Federal Incarcerations. However, states will do whatever they want.

Many young minorities are convicted of crimes, many times through plea bargaining with court appointed counsel. After the first conviction a person cannot get a job or even live in public housing. Their only option is continuing a life of crime. The USA has the most incarcerations per capita in the world and it is not working. Something has so change.
 

mpd

Lammen Gorthaur
Veteran
I don't understand. Announcing it (instead of just doing it and telling us later) guarantees a pissing contest. JUST DO IT, BRA!
 

DTFuqua

Member
Don't bet your freedom on any of it. We are still being lied to and tricked as part of the social experiment to see how fast our government can implement fascism. We have no constitutional rights any more unless we have the money to buy them, or have a friend that has the money and is willing to spend it for our freedom.
 
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