Then I think chlorine dioxide might be your best bet - I don't know enough about it to be of much help, other than I was told that's that what a lot of the commercial hydroponics industry uses, added in small continuous amounts, to keep diseases at bay. And at significantly higher temps (say in a greenhouse) than you're probably keeping your reservoir at.
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Desperate for a dead res technique !!!
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Then I think chlorine dioxide might be your best bet - I don't know enough about it to be of much help, other than I was told that's that what a lot of the commercial hydroponics industry uses, added in small continuous amounts, to keep diseases at bay. And at significantly higher temps (say in a greenhouse) than you're probably keeping your reservoir at.
hmmm, have you tried feeding more often, say once every three hours?
do you have your res aerating constantly?
are you on well water?
what are the symptoms of the problem in detail? are they wilting, is there fungus at the base of the stem, have you taken the rootballs out of your container?
like someone else said, get it tested for pathogens at your local state or university ag department.
the reason im asking is that, spores and other pathogenic material are present pretty frequently, though certainly levels vary location to location. if your on well, its not sterilized, and likely has a higher load. i know your on a uv ro system, but i dont know if those are 100%, especially if its really dirty source water.
the problem is really that, either you have a systemic disease, like fusarium, or your allowing conditions that favor diseases like pythium. i cant imagine after 18 years you wouldnt recognize the signs of overfert.
one cant be cured because it will follow in the clones, one can be cured by redesigning the system to eliminate the root cause.
infact i had a bad case of fusarium kill everything in my spot. only way i recovered was shutting down, cleaning with physan, and i mean really wetting the room down floor to ceiling, and treating incoming clones with organocide.
still gotta be careful burning them with chlorine dioxide though.
If it was me I would not use the water. Having to constantly fight with the water non stop would get old fast, not to mention all the money you have to spend to make the water clean.
Depending on how big your overall grow is, I would just buy water from the store in the 3 gallon containers. Or get the 5gallon containers to fill up at the grocery store.
If you're system is RDWC and that is too much water, then I would consider switching to another method. I mean, if I knew my water was always going to cause problems I wouldn't want to grow in DWC anyway because of how sensitive it is to begin with.
Depending on how big your overall grow is, I would just buy water from the store in the 3 gallon containers. Or get the 5gallon containers to fill up at the grocery store.
If you're system is RDWC and that is too much water, then I would consider switching to another method. I mean, if I knew my water was always going to cause problems I wouldn't want to grow in DWC anyway because of how sensitive it is to begin with.
How big of grow are we talking here? How many lights?
Are you saying several growers in your area or are you referring to other people on this site?
Have you tried some of the fancier water filters? They make 10 and 12 stage filters, and medical grade filters. Additionally, you can boil the water for a minute and that will kill anything. (to my knowledge) They make large pots for brewing beer, 10,12, even up to 16 gallon pots you can boil water in. You can find them used if you look around.
Took me a while... but that's what I ended up doing.
I eventually figured out how to work without getting any tap-water near the equipment. Took a long time though.
Royal pita.
You said your R/O unit has a U/V *before* the R/O membrane? Hrmmm...
Any possible way to get NEW (guaranteed clean) containers and buy water for one run? As long as you don't use any tap-water and use pool shock or something to clean everything with first...
Looking at your setup... I'd say you need to go with all new lines. The buckets can be scrubbed but any plumbing is toast. I've never figured out how to successfully sterilize pvc and other tubing with corner and 'Y' fittings in it. Dump anything like that and start over with fresh equipment.
Do a one-bucket setup that's super clean. Hand-water from known clean buckets with known clean water from the store. If you can keep that clean... your entire system can stay clean.
Stay Safe!
shredGnar
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If you're only using 12 gallons a day that's only 84 gallons per week...
I live in a bit of a rural town (ski town with lots of ranches around), and a lot of people live off the water grid and do not have mineral rights to their own land and therefore cannot drill for a well. Typically they have large water thanks in their home, and with a trailer or pickup truck fill up a portable 300 gallon tank from the local water department for around $ .03 a gallon (I believe). I wonder if you could check out a neighboring county or water source and see if their water causes the problem??
At 84 gallons a week a 300 gallon run would last almost a month.. I don't know if this is an option for you or not, but I had the thought today and figured I'd share..
I live in a bit of a rural town (ski town with lots of ranches around), and a lot of people live off the water grid and do not have mineral rights to their own land and therefore cannot drill for a well. Typically they have large water thanks in their home, and with a trailer or pickup truck fill up a portable 300 gallon tank from the local water department for around $ .03 a gallon (I believe). I wonder if you could check out a neighboring county or water source and see if their water causes the problem??
At 84 gallons a week a 300 gallon run would last almost a month.. I don't know if this is an option for you or not, but I had the thought today and figured I'd share..
Thanks guys.
HS,
Im fully aware of resetting systems and replacing all rooms with new gear, we have done that numerous times. I really need to find a simple solution, there has to be one right? its always the last thing you do right? lol.. i have to be close!
Shred, the small room i mentioned earlier with the 10-12 gallons a day is being supplemented with water from another source.
It is a MAJOR pain in the ass! I change the res's out every week also, so thats another 2-250 gallons not mentioned.
There are multiple grows in my area that need this resolved also, not just me, digging wells and trucking water in is not the answer i dont believe.
There has to be someone around here that runs a dead res consistently? I will keep plugging along until i loose all my hair or until i just say frig it and get a job at walmart.
Thanks for the input guys!
HS,
Im fully aware of resetting systems and replacing all rooms with new gear, we have done that numerous times. I really need to find a simple solution, there has to be one right? its always the last thing you do right? lol.. i have to be close!
Shred, the small room i mentioned earlier with the 10-12 gallons a day is being supplemented with water from another source.
It is a MAJOR pain in the ass! I change the res's out every week also, so thats another 2-250 gallons not mentioned.
There are multiple grows in my area that need this resolved also, not just me, digging wells and trucking water in is not the answer i dont believe.
There has to be someone around here that runs a dead res consistently? I will keep plugging along until i loose all my hair or until i just say frig it and get a job at walmart.
Thanks for the input guys!
S
SooperSmurph
You have literally gone through every simple solution to your problem.
As someone said previously, you need to know what you're dealing with, whoever manages your water resources locally will have test data available to the public, you can request this data without seeming at all suspicious.
Barring that, you're looking at having a water quality test from a lab, until we know what you have, we can't solve the problem, because all the generic solutions provided seem to have not worked.
As someone said previously, you need to know what you're dealing with, whoever manages your water resources locally will have test data available to the public, you can request this data without seeming at all suspicious.
Barring that, you're looking at having a water quality test from a lab, until we know what you have, we can't solve the problem, because all the generic solutions provided seem to have not worked.
having a truck deliver water to a storage tank isn't hard. Hell, if one of you growers in your area has a truck, getting a full tank to fill up all of the grows would be a cheaper way yet.
I'm not sure why you are trying so hard to feed that shitty water to your plants. I mean, if it was me I wouldn't even want herb that was grown in gross water that you had to dump loads and loads of shit in just to keep the plants from suffering from it.
But, to each there own man, I wish you good luck!
I'm not sure why you are trying so hard to feed that shitty water to your plants. I mean, if it was me I wouldn't even want herb that was grown in gross water that you had to dump loads and loads of shit in just to keep the plants from suffering from it.
But, to each there own man, I wish you good luck!
Actually it would be very difficult, Not to mention the 60 mile round trip plus exposure to outside people.
Trying to sterilize the local water is the best option for us, we dont have to dump " loads of shit " in it, hopefully some sort of chlorine/bleach at small intervals will clear it up, like 90% of the world does, we just need to find one that will work for our problem.
There are multiple incomplete threads here and other forums on running dead res's,no on ever seems to come back to give details on how it worked or what they used, thats all im looking for.
Thanks everyone for the input
Dankstang
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Dam shame :/
I'll look forward to the recipe
I've had issues too but never lost a crop
DM Zone is my friend
