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Biden will never legalize it

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Ron Paul would have been a great president. Its a pity he didnt make it.

Trump is not 10% as bad as the far left portray. Id rather have Trump than Hillary or Bernie or AOC. The left is not anti-war anymore. Obama dropped 100 000 bombs on 7 countries, Hillary destroyed Libya, Bernie supported the F35 spending (1.5 trillion dollars) and basically every war bar Iraq).

Trump is the least hawkish of the lot (although still a problem, hes dead quiet about Yemen and pro Saudi).

Its absurd seeing the left act like pussy grabbing and Russian collusion hoaxes are life and death issues.


I really like Ron Paul but his views that the world ends at the atlantic and pacific are too simplistic for the world the way it is. He could have acknowledged that some interaction with the world is a necessary evil. Otherwise I would have loved to vote for him.
 

OregonBorn

Active member
I post about Biden never legalizing weed, and its become a pile-on about anti-Trump. That is all that the Democrats have. Nothing else. Which is just playing more of Trump's tune. He is setting the agenda. The Democrats are dragging out the fake crap Russia probe like they dragged out the fake news and testimony crap about Kavanaugh. Biden is no better than Trump. Worse in a lot of ways. He is slime. Oh, and THEY ALL LIE. Every single politician out there lies day in and day out. No exception.

Y'all want to whine about the electoral college and court appointees, but that is the way that the US Constitution is set up. This is a republic, not a pure democracy. Its the United States, not NYC, Chicago and LA rules by popular vote. Which is exactly why they set it up this way. You cannot change it (the Constitution) without a 3/4 majority state ratification. So it (the electoral college) will not change. If you do not like it? Move to Socialist Republik of Canada. Or cartel run Mexico. Weed is legal in Canada, and will soon be legal in Mexico. If you want weed to be legal here, Biden is not the answer.
 

CoCo_LoCo

Active member
I really like Ron Paul but his views that the world ends at the atlantic and pacific are too simplistic for the world the way it is. He could have acknowledged that some interaction with the world is a necessary evil. Otherwise I would have loved to vote for him.

He was happy to make friends and trade. The media calls that isolationism but we call it non interventionism. The US doesnt have the right to intervene in others affairs. The illegal wars and covert operations are wildly out of hand.
 

igrowone

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Veteran
I post about Biden never legalizing weed, and its become a pile-on about anti-Trump. That is all that the Democrats have. Nothing else. Which is just playing more of Trump's tune. He is setting the agenda. The Democrats are dragging out the fake crap Russia probe like they dragged out the fake news and testimony crap about Kavanaugh. Biden is no better than Trump. Worse in a lot of ways. He is slime. Oh, and THEY ALL LIE. Every single politician out there lies day in and day out. No exception.

Y'all want to whine about the electoral college and court appointees, but that is the way that the US Constitution is set up. This is a republic, not a pure democracy. Its the United States, not NYC, Chicago and LA rules by popular vote. Which is exactly why they set it up this way. You cannot change it (the Constitution) without a 3/4 majority state ratification. So it (the electoral college) will not change. If you do not like it? Move to Socialist Republik of Canada. Or cartel run Mexico. Weed is legal in Canada, and will soon be legal in Mexico. If you want weed to be legal here, Biden is not the answer.

you made a political thread
that's going to draw both sides, just like night follows day
thread belongs in speakers corner
that isolates the mud slinging to some extent
 

CoCo_LoCo

Active member
I post about Biden never legalizing weed, and its become a pile-on about anti-Trump. That is all that the Democrats have. Nothing else. Which is just playing more of Trump's tune. He is setting the agenda. The Democrats are dragging out the fake crap Russia probe like they dragged out the fake news and testimony crap about Kavanaugh. Biden is no better than Trump. Worse in a lot of ways. He is slime. Oh, and THEY ALL LIE. Every single politician out there lies day in and day out. No exception.

Y'all want to whine about the electoral college and court appointees, but that is the way that the US Constitution is set up. This is a republic, not a pure democracy. Its the United States, not NYC, Chicago and LA rules by popular vote. Which is exactly why they set it up this way. You cannot change it (the Constitution) without a 3/4 majority state ratification. So it (the electoral college) will not change. If you do not like it? Move to Socialist Republik of Canada. Or cartel run Mexico. Weed is legal in Canada, and will soon be legal in Mexico. If you want weed to be legal here, Biden is not the answer.

Ron Paul was honest and i think his son Rand is cut from the same cloth.

The constitutional republic / states rights / electoral college is a great system. The mob rule of democracy is not beneficial.
 

Biscuit 77

New member
Every Democrat candidate will be for legal. There is no reason to not be for legalization. It will be hard for the dems to not nominate a woman. Women feel it's their turn. They're activated. There are twenty (20) announced Democrat candidates, and so help me, I don't like any of them.
 

OregonBorn

Active member
Ron Paul was honest and i think his son Rand is cut from the same cloth.

The constitutional republic / states rights / electoral college is a great system. The mob rule of democracy is not beneficial.


I like the Pauls. But most good politicians get waxed by all the paid off and lying crapola. Agreed on the EC. But the liberal masses in the cities do not like it. In Portland its always a mess with 'demonstrations' turning into riots.
 

OregonBorn

Active member
Every Democrat candidate will be for legal. There is no reason to not be for legalization. It will be hard for the dems to not nominate a woman. Women feel it's their turn. They're activated. There are twenty (20) announced Democrat candidates, and so help me, I don't like any of them.


First post? Welcome to the forums here. As for all Democrat candidates approving legalization, that does not seem to be the case with Creepy Uncle Joe Biden. Which is the point of this thread. He will have to back pedal so hard on any legal stance on drugs he will trip over himself.

From a Chinese fortune cookie quote: May you live in interesting times!
 

packerfan79

Active member
Veteran
Weed will be federal legal before the 2020 elections. I have said for a long time, that Trump was going to use it to get re-elected. I have seen a few articles about Trump supporting legalization. I think it's going to be entertaining, the Democrat politicians have to oppose legalization, or violating the no wins for Trump policy. It's a win-win for Trump, and a lose-lose for the Democrats.

I bet the Democrats wish they would have legalized it during the Obama administration.
 

White Beard

Active member
Ron Paul has done a great job of scrubbing his most paleoconservative views from the web.
The most “problematic” is his willingness to replace the constitution with the Bible.

He’s also the step-father of the notion that “states’ rights” permit states to violate common law within their borders - specifically with reference to cannabis and other drugs. He’s not a proponent of legalization so much as of turning the state’s loose to do whatever they bloody want no matter what.

Not my choice, even for dogcatcher
 

trichrider

Kiss My Ring
Veteran
i would be surprised if the current administration decriminalized/re-scheduled even for political gain.
there is no 'legalization' other than regulation and currently where i reside it's all about the benjamins...still illegal to grow your own...and insult to injury is a tax on 'legal' consumption.
it is now legal to pay the state (which still can prosecute you) a needless tax the majority of which goes to law enforcement.
joe is knee deep in the mire that is the war on drugs, and cannot pull his foot out without losing a boot.
 

CoCo_LoCo

Active member
Ron Paul has done a great job of scrubbing his most paleoconservative views from the web.
The most “problematic” is his willingness to replace the constitution with the Bible.

He’s also the step-father of the notion that “states’ rights” permit states to violate common law within their borders - specifically with reference to cannabis and other drugs. He’s not a proponent of legalization so much as of turning the state’s loose to do whatever they bloody want no matter what.

Not my choice, even for dogcatcher

When does he replace the constitution with the bible? He believes in the separation of church and state.

By common law are you talking about federal law?

States rights are part of a constitutional republic. Centralised power is bad.

Paul believes the drug war is unconstitutional and abhorrent. Libertarians believe the government has no right to police what you do with your own body.
 

White Beard

Active member
When does he replace the constitution with the bible? He believes in the separation of church and state.

By common law are you talking about federal law?

States rights are part of a constitutional republic. Centralised power is bad.

Paul believes the drug war is unconstitutional and abhorrent. Libertarians believe the government has no right to police what you do with your own body.

Video of him in a public Q&A during the 2000 campaign: in response to a question said he’d be happy to replace our laws with the Bible.

By “common law”, I mean the English Common Law which is the basis of our laws the same way the Napoleonic Code became the basis of law in the notions that arose from French colonies. This is enshrined (unclearly, today) in the Ninth Amendment.

“States rights” are part of OUR constitutional republic - another sop to the Slaver south, in order to gain Slaver support for the constitution. It centralizes power in the states, which are mostly run as little kingdoms even today.

Paul has no problem with drug wars, he just wants to let the states do it.

Libertarians believe a lot of things. I was a libertarian for more than 20 years, until the social darwinists took over the ‘party’.
 

Gry

Well-known member
Gotta wonder what percentage of this generation would even know who Birch was.
 

OregonBorn

Active member
I keep reading the press that says that marijuana is 'about to be legalized' at the federal level. Forbes, CBS, WSJ. Who writes this stuff? Also friends overseas all say that it is about to be legalized here. Like next week! I doubt that it will be legalized any time soon. Biden, Trump or otherwise. I do not see what they see. DC pushing for real legalization and forcing the issue? Trump flipping on his stance (again)? Biden flipping on his political career?

Illinois might legalize it this session before may 31. That would be a big state to add to the legal list. But federally? I see no momentum on that front.
 

CoCo_LoCo

Active member
Video of him in a public Q&A during the 2000 campaign: in response to a question said he’d be happy to replace our laws with the Bible.

May I have a link to the video please.

It centralizes power in the states, which are mostly run as little kingdoms even today.

Thats a good thing. Decentralisation of power is good. The federal government is wildly out of control.

Paul has no problem with drug wars, he just wants to let the states do it.

No. He believes all drugs should be legal and hates the drug war. but also believes the states should decide. He wants no federal control: Paul legalise heroin youtu.be/c4Eca-INIOw
 

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