help please

verdecielo

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• Nov 5, 2010

• #1

ok my plants are in straight coco using the GHE flora head recipe 1/2 strength for now
they are 11 days old and started to show this 2 or 3 days ago

i am adjusting the ph 5.8
but in the grow shop they only had ph down from advance hydro which is supposedly for flowering i dont know if that is the problem

anyways i water one a day, and the temperature is around 24C

how you guys can help me

 

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ibjamming

Active member

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• Nov 5, 2010

• #2

Looks like over watered/waterlogged...add some perlite next potting, water when NEEDED...not by a schedule.

 

verdecielo

Member

• Nov 5, 2010

• #3

thx for the reply but i not growing in soil and i have grown in coco before and as it a hydro stile watering every day with just a minimal runoff shouldn't cause overwatering
can you think of any other cause for this problem

 

MHHSP

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• Nov 5, 2010

• #4

No its over watering, you need to even let coco dry a bit at that growth stage, ground coco like that holds water big time, your roots will suffocate.

 

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greentrich

Member

• Nov 5, 2010

• #5

Sorry verdecielo...over watered, and possibly too much food for a seedling at that stage.

The ballooning of the leaves is a dead give away. Roots can get logged very easily at that stage. All I've ever grown was in coco, it's all I know. IME...I treat coco like soil the first few weeks, then treat it like hydro after that.

Like MHHSP said, let it dry out...a bit. Not too much though or your nutes turn to salt, then you really have issues.

Your roots need to breath man. I'm assuming there are holes in the bottoms of those cups for drainage?

 

verdecielo

Member

• Nov 6, 2010

• #6

Your roots need to breath man. I'm assuming there are holes in the bottoms of those cups for drainage?[/quote]

yes they have holes


all of you guys thanks for putting me in the right track

i thought it was something different but now that i think before i was using a 60/40 coco/perlite
i i will let it dry a bit and water only when needed
cheerz

 

MHHSP

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• Nov 6, 2010

• #7

goodluck

 

verdecielo

Member

• Nov 9, 2010

• #8

thanks m8s
they are recovering from the trauma

 

!!!

Now in technicolor

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• Nov 9, 2010

• #9

Wait, what? They have pH-down that's only for flowering? I'm assuming it contains zero nitrates? It's all bullshit marketing.

 

B. Friendly

"IBIUBU" Sayeith the Dude

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• Nov 9, 2010

• #10

no worries at all, just let em dry out a little more between waterings. not to dry though they are young and need to be wetter than dry still on the average.

 

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Tr33

• Nov 10, 2010

• #11

looks like you packed the coco a little tight, lack of air, to much water and cool temps will do that. need to let it dry out a bit, warm them up, because of the tight coco.
I run coco and have had the same thing in the past.

24C seems a tad bit cold imo, thats about 74F, I run my girls at 78F

 

ganja_hasi

natural mystic

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• Nov 10, 2010

• #12

!!! said:

Wait, what? They have pH-down that's only for flowering? I'm assuming it contains zero nitrates? It's all bullshit marketing.

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ph down only for flower = Phosphoric Acid
ph down only for Vegi = Nitric Acid
where's the marketing issue?

 

MHHSP

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• Nov 10, 2010

• #13

or citric acid all around

 

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mr. b

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• Nov 10, 2010

• #14

apple cider vinegar 5% all around only .69 a pint at the grocery store

 

!!!

Now in technicolor

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• Nov 10, 2010

• #15

ganja_hasi said:

ph down only for flower = Phosphoric Acid
ph down only for Vegi = Nitric Acid
where's the marketing issue?

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I didn't say there was an issue. Giving your flowering plants 10 ppm of nitrogen is harmless, probably even beneficial. Do you really buy separate pH down for veg and flower? If not, why?

 

ganja_hasi

natural mystic

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• Nov 11, 2010

• #16

!!! said:

I didn't say there was an issue. Giving your flowering plants 10 ppm of nitrogen is harmless, probably even beneficial. Do you really buy separate pH down for veg and flower? If not, why?

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yes I do, once a year one of each bottle ..for a while have used Phosphoric acid for the veg and haven't noticed any probs!
there are lots of ways to regulate the pH and i don't want to battle about which way is better..everyone has his own best way