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Milo Yiannopoulos....What an interesting person.

Gypsy Nirvana

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Classic Milo

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Milo seems to be able to run rings around most people that identify as and support islam, as with this confused woman. Most muslims don't seem to understand exactly what their religion is about because they were born into it and systematically indoctrinated as children to not even question it, and this has gone on for many generations, since islams inception 1400 years ago or so.

What is "Abrogation" in Islam?
To abrogate means to abolish, do away with, or annul, especially by authority.

This is a key term in studying the Quran. There are some peaceful, tolerant verses in the Quran. But the violent, intolerant ones have abrogated them. The Quran itself explains what to do with conflicting verses. If two passages conflict, it says, the one written later is better than the one written earlier. The earlier passage has been abrogated by the later one.

The bad news for non-Muslims is that almost all the peaceful passages were written earlier, and the intolerant, hateful, and violent ones were written later (read more about this).

The two key abrogation passages in the Quran are these:

2:106 "Whatever of Our revelations We repeal or cause to be forgotten, We will replace them with something superior or comparable. Do you not know that Allah has power over all things? Do you not know that Allah reigns sovereign over the heavens and earth and besides Him you have no protector or helper? Would you question your messenger as Moses was questioned in his time? Those who exchange their faith for disbelief have gone astray from the right path."

16:101 "When We exchange one verse for another, and Allah knows best what He reveals, they say, 'You are making this up.' Most of them do not understand."


Bill Warner writes, "There are as many as 225 verses of the Koran that are altered by later verses. This is called abrogation."

Read an excellent article by the Martel Group, who knew way ahead of the rest of us that Islamic violence and Islamization were a threat to the free world: Abrogation (PDF document).

Another good article on abrogation is here: Abrogation of the Koran, Koranic Contradictions and Muslim Taqiyya. I thought this was interesting (from that article):

Of the Koran's 114 suras (chapters), only 43 are without abrogated or abrogating verses. That is naturally surprising, and so unexpected that few Westerners are aware that significant segments of the Koran have been theologically annulled. Mohammed's non-Muslim contemporaries were just as surprised.


Another good article is Peace or Jihad? Abrogation in Islam.

For more on abrogation, read these selections from the ex-Muslim's site, FaithFreedom.org:

"Abrogation" means the canceling or replacement of one Quranic passage by another. It seems that as circumstances changed during the 23-year period that Muhammad dictated the Quran, the directions and precepts found therein sometimes changed to accommodate new and changing political and military realities, sometimes quite dramatically. Thus, the Quran abrogates or cancels itself in various passages and presents seemingly conflicting statements.

Muslims do not view this sort of abrogation as a contradiction, but rather, as improvements to better suit varying circumstances or needs, or to fit Muhammad's religious concepts. For further reading, see the articles below.

The Quran's Doctrine of Abrogation:
http://www.islamreview.com/articles/quransdoctrine.shtml

Abrogation:
http://answering-islam.org/Index/A/abrogation.html

Abrogated Verses Of the Quran:
http://answering-islam.org/Quran/abrogatedverses.html

Abrogation in the Koran:
http://www.muhammadanism.org/Quran/abrogation_koran.pdf

The Problem of Abrogation in the Quran:
http://answering-islam.org/Authors/Farooq_Ibrahim/abrogation.htm

Ahmad, Allah, and Abrogation:
http://answering-islam.org/Silas/abrogation.htm
 

vta

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MILO Meets Gavin McInnes

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Good stuff !
 

Cannavore

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They go after the lowest hanging fruit possible because their actual policy ideas are terrible..
 

Cannavore

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The "alt-right" commentators and propagandists is who im referring to... Milo, Crowder, Sargon, Shapiro, Watson, ect.

They go after the lowest hanging fruit possible (fake feminists, authoritarian college kids), people begin following and listening to their opinions. Then they'll tell you things like Hitler was a liberal and greedy scientists made up global warming while screaming any news coming from the mainstream is fake.

They are controlled opposition. Agent provacatuers. The two party system understands theyre losing their power to the internet so they have to hire new young propagandists with seemingly no ties to the establishment to get the next generation hooked on their propaganda.

Alt right = fascist lap dogs
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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The "alt-right" commentators and propagandists is who im referring to... Milo, Crowder, Sargon, Shapiro, Watson, ect.

They go after the lowest hanging fruit possible (fake feminists, authoritarian college kids), people begin following and listening to their opinions. Then they'll tell you things like Hitler was a liberal and greedy scientists made up global warming while screaming any news coming from the mainstream is fake.

They are controlled opposition. Agent provacatuers. The two party system understands theyre losing their power to the internet so they have to hire new young propagandists with seemingly no ties to the establishment to get the next generation hooked on their propaganda.

Alt right = fascist lap dogs

If you were to watch the last video posted here by vta, you would see that Milo says that he is anti-left and anti-right....so am I, because quite frankly I am kinda sick and tired of hearing this left/right/left/right stuff, because all it does is divide people, it creates division by its very nature, and the people divided will always be defeated...

Why is it so necessary to identify with one side of the political divide or another? Its like when people ask you what religion you are, so you feel that you have to identify with one of the established religions, and I don't identify with any of them either.

Don't you realize that there are plenty of people like me in this world who don't identify with any sort of religious or political dogma at all?, but are looking for people that feel the same way as they do about various topics, trying to get to the truth or the meat of the matter by discussing or debating these issues to gain knowledge, so perhaps understanding the intrinsic nature of the myriad of problems that this world is facing in this day and age.

*Hitler was not a liberal, he was a NATIONAL SOCIALIST.
 
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Cannavore

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Don't you realize that there are plenty of people like me in this world who don't identify with any sort of religious or political dogma at all?, but are looking for people that feel the same way as they do about various topics, trying to get to the truth or the meat of the matter by discussing or debating these issues to gain knowledge, so perhaps understanding the intrinsic nature of the myriad of problems that this world is facing in this day and age.

so you put your faith of information into the hands of people with ulterior motives? guys like milo aren't some neutral anti-partisan actors lol. they are bankrolled by rich people to take over the republican party. which they have successfully done. :tiphat:


again, go to 11min 55sec on this video
https://youtu.be/524DqapwwHQ

it'll expose Milo as the closet neo nazi he likely is. he can say he's anti left and anti right all he wants. his actions behind closed doors say otherwise.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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so you put your faith of information into the hands of people with ulterior motives? guys like milo aren't some neutral anti-partisan actors lol. they are bankrolled by rich people to take over the republican party. which they have successfully done. :tiphat:


again, go to 11min 55sec on this video
https://youtu.be/524DqapwwHQ

it'll expose Milo as the closet neo nazi he likely is. he can say he's anti left and anti right all he wants. his actions behind closed doors say otherwise.

I don't know this Milo at all, so how could I put my faith in him? What I will say is that he seems to make a lot more sense than many political commentators out there, and I don't take what he says and believe in it straight off the bat at all. What I do is to research his claims/views and come to realize more often than not that he actually speaks truthfully about some topics that are problematic to humanity and cause people to suffer and die in many cases as you will see from my input in this thread.

Can you tell me, and prove who is bank-rolling this Milo character?, because to me he doesn't look like he needs bank-rolling since his popularity allows for him to be able to make his own funds from people that pay to see and hear him speak.

You say Milo is a closet neo-nazi?, really? lol....It is beyond the realms of my limited intellect to envisage that a gay/white/Jewish man who is married to a black fella could have anything to do with Nazi National Socialism (which was Adolph Hitler's political party).
 

CaptainDankness

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I think that if you were to study nazism, say by reading Mein Kampf, and then had someone interpret the Koran to you, and/or read a good translation of it, you definitely could draw certain parallels between islam and nazism.

They are both murderous ideologies who want/wanted to liquidate the jews, and anyone else who stands in their way, and does not convert to their totalitarian way of thinking/living.
You don't even need to compare the two, just find yourself on a Muslim extremist website they idolize Hitler.

Sure not all Muslims are that bad but a good number of them are or ISIS wouldn't have even been formed.

Of course people like Millo drive the far left completely insane so bad the Communist ANTIFA group will riot over his right of freedom of speech. :biggrin:

But I've found if you end up talking against the left wing the slightest on a cannabis forum you get a hell of a lot of haters trolling you. I won't even use rollitup just a bunch of crybaby liberals who didn't get there way. I was cool with Brexit that Nigel guy seemed decent to me, but if you believe that you are a fascist according to the PC snowflakes. Lol

I didn't even vote I didn't like Hillary or Trump but I've been hated on for not voting because Hillary lost. LMAO
 

Cannavore

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I don't know this Milo at all, so how could I put my faith in him? What I will say is that he seems to make a lot more sense than many political commentators out there, and I don't take what he says and believe in it straight off the bat at all. What I do is to research his claims/views and come to realize more often than not that he actually speaks truthfully about some topics that are problematic to humanity and cause people to suffer and die in many cases as you will see from my input in this thread.

Can you tell me, and prove who is bank-rolling this Milo character?, because to me he doesn't look like he needs bank-rolling since his popularity allows for him to be able to make his own funds from people that pay to see and hear him speak.

You say Milo is a closet neo-nazi?, really? lol....It is beyond the realms of my limited intellect to envisage that a gay/white/Jewish man who is married to a black fella could have anything to do with Nazi National Socialism (which was Adolph Hitler's political party).


i guess non neo-nazis also do nazi salutes, hang out with people who do the nazi salute (whether ironically or not) and use computer passwords referencing nazi activities like Kristallnacht and The Night of the Long Knives. lol. seems perfectly normal.

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Robert Mercer: I regret supporting Milo Yiannopoulos and I'm cutting off his funding
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...nd-im-cutting-off-his-funding/article/2639401
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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You don't even need to compare the two, just find yourself on a Muslim extremist website they idolize Hitler.

Sure not all Muslims are that bad but a good number of them are or ISIS wouldn't have even been formed.

Of course people like Millo drive the far left completely insane so bad the Communist ANTIFA group will riot over his right of freedom of speech. :biggrin:

But I've found if you end up talking against the left wing the slightest on a cannabis forum you get a hell of a lot of haters trolling you. I won't even use rollitup just a bunch of crybaby liberals who didn't get there way. I was cool with Brexit that Nigel guy seemed decent to me, but if you believe that you are a fascist according to the PC snowflakes. Lol

I didn't even vote I didn't like Hillary or Trump but I've been hated on for not voting because Hillary lost. LMAO

Actually I haven't been to any muslim extremist websites CaptainDankness ever, but I'm not surprised that they would idolize that patsy called Adolph Hitler who always had a chip on his shoulder due to an undescended testicle.

And Captain I sympathize with you when you get labelled as alt or far right by a bunch of lefties because I have experienced exactly the same sort of clap-trap myself from uninformed wankers who called me a 'racist' for speaking out against islam, which by the way is a murderous religious/political ideology and has nothing to do with being any sort of 'race', other than all muslims being part of the same race we all are a part of, called THE HUMAN RACE.

I do have a lot of respect for Mr Nigel Farage, because he is another Brit that speaks his mind without trying to appease the virtue signalling lefties, and actually tells it like it is, rather like Milo.

If you are being trolled over your views, just let me know by pressing the reported post button and I will sort it out.

We are all entitled to our own views, and if you wish to debate any of them with me, then by all means bring it on.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ve-only-one-testicle-german-researcher-claims
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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i guess non neo-nazis also do nazi salutes, hang out with people who do the nazi salute (whether ironically or not) and use computer passwords referencing nazi activities like Kristallnacht and The Night of the Long Knives. lol. seems perfectly normal.

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Robert Mercer: I regret supporting Milo Yiannopoulos and I'm cutting off his funding
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...nd-im-cutting-off-his-funding/article/2639401

So some billionaire doesn't want to support Milo any more. I'm sure the he is not too concerned about it, and does not need his support.

When I was a kid I remember mucking about with an ice pick, as if it had been stuck in my side, because I was playing the game 'Charades' and was trying to look like Leon Trotsky as he was dying. Does that make me a card carrying member of some communist party?....lol I also remember walking into an antique uniform emporium, and dressing up as one of Rommels Africa Korps for fun, so does that make me a Nazi?....lol

One of my old passwords was 'operationbarbarossa', does that also make me a nazi?...Seems to me like people are just trying to put labels on something they cannot understand, so that they can hate other people for their views on topics such as we are discussing in this thread.
 

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If you want to have a level playing field, maybe it's time to revise the TOU:moon:
 

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If you want to have a level playing field, maybe it's time to revise the TOU:moon:

Maybe you need to read over that TOU reference again Cosmic?
I have emboldened the bit that you should pay attention to.

* and so far I find this thread acceptable, and fairly interesting actually, because it is an interesting debate over a topical and enigmatic person who I happened to take notice of, without any nasty trolling and flaming.
 
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December 8 1980

John Lennon was murdered by a Christian extremist.

"Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace, you

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one"


When will people wake up and stop being divisive?
Sometimes it seems like never.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky

Imagine all the people
Living for today (ah ah ah)

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too

Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man

Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one


*I thought that I would put up the full version WATER- Lennon certainly saw the divisions that religion inflames within humanity. R.I.P. John.
 

CosmicGiggle

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Maybe you need to read over that TOU reference again Cosmic?
I have emboldened the bit that you should pay attention to.

* and so far I find this thread acceptable, and fairly interesting actually, because it is an interesting debate over a topical and enigmatic person who I happened to take notice of, without any nasty trolling and flaming.

..... of course you do, but YOU control the thread - aren't you an Administrator/Moderator with the power to ban my left-leaning ass???

not a level playing field however you slice it!:tiphat:
 

CaptainDankness

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Actually I haven't been to any muslim extremist websites CaptainDankness ever, but I'm not surprised that they would idolize that patsy called Adolph Hitler who always had a chip on his shoulder due to an undescended testicle.

And Captain I sympathize with you when you get labelled as alt or far right by a bunch of lefties because I have experienced exactly the same sort of clap-trap myself from uninformed wankers who called me a 'racist' for speaking out against islam, which by the way is a murderous religious/political ideology and has nothing to do with being any sort of 'race', other than all muslims being part of the same race we all are a part of, called THE HUMAN RACE.

I do have a lot of respect for Mr Nigel Farage, because he is another Brit that speaks his mind without trying to appease the virtue signalling lefties, and actually tells it like it is, rather like Milo.

If you are being trolled over your views, just let me know by pressing the reported post button and I will sort it out.

We are all entitled to our own views, and if you wish to debate any of them with me, then by all means bring it on.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ve-only-one-testicle-german-researcher-claims

Haven't had much of a problem here thankfully it never gets too political here.

I really don't understand all the SJW's they hate Christians because they were a bit like Muslims hundreds of years ago, at the same time call everyone racist that don't want fighting age Muslim males coming in getting free housing, about $1,000 per month and food stamps. Sure some are not bad people but all the attacks and rape is bullshit. Of course it seems Europe and the UK have it worse but we are catching up. Even seen a news report on CNN a while back " refugees are not taking jobs they are filling gaps" then goes to show a factory full of mostly Muslims and the reason for Americans not working the jobs was drug testing obviously mostly because of marijuana like always.

Not too many in the rural areas though so I can't complain too much. But it's one thing to let in a few legally that want to come in so bad they go through all the bullshit a regular immigrant goes through. Even through marriage they go through hell for a green card I know a few Asians that got in through marriage and it's not easy at all. But you from Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, etc. Come right in we will treat you better than Americans. Makes no sense whatsoever.

People wonder why Trump won when Hillary was part of the Obama administration that got us into this mess. Saudi Arabia won't even take them but oil is why we give a damn about Saudi Arabia and fight their proxy wars with Iran. Even though Saudi Arabia funded the 9/11 hijackers of course western governments have been funding terrorists too.

None of it makes much sense to me of course the DEA, CIA and military industrial complex are making a hell of a lot of money on heroin and cocaine for decades, now oil as well. It's complete bullshit El Chapo gets to run Mexico to rat out his competition.
 

Boyd Crowder

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welp - thats about all i need to know
im gonna just haveto fade on in to the wind if you can endorse this childfucker
gypsy nirvana, i had not anticipated your endorsement of this guy
so, honestly, was unprepared to say fuck your site and you tonight.

but
dood
i cant
just cant be associated with that guy or anyone who can
canna or no
nazis like weed too
doesnt make being a nazi ok
so dood, gypsy
bro
wtf are you doing
the world doesnt need a weedbart
they got 4chan and reddt for that
this was posed to be a nonpolitics place
i even seent many a folk get banned for it
just so you can get drunk on scotch and watch a few vids and decide this is the new cool?
nah bro
im cool
ima miss this account and this place, but

NAZITRUMPSFUCKOFF!~!!
 
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