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Rate of THC Decomposition to CBN
- Thread starter Gray Wolf
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The question of conversion of thc to cbn in flower has been brought up a few times. I just saw this article/advertisement and thought i would share.
https://mrhempflower.com/cbn
https://mrhempflower.com/cbn
Looks like light breaks the THC down, as has always been the rumor.
This isn't Mr. Extractor is it?
No reason not to sell it then. What about mystery non-cannabinoids? You want entourage you got it. What about "mystery" cancer?
Many things are unclear, including if that is
an extract, made from fresh hemp plants with high cannabinoid and terpene content,
or
an extract made from fresh hemp plants, with high cannabinoid and terpene content.
So that hemp was presumably under 0.3% THC, and 1% cannabinoid? That would suck to process - except maybe with CO2? No doubt the lowest possible cost CBN is made with only the highest quality extract.
troutman
Seed Whore
CBN can be made directly from THC in a laboratory. Roger Adams did it in 1940. 
Structure of Cannabidiol. VI. Isomerization of Cannabidiol to Tetrahydrocannabinol, a Physiologically Active Product. Conversion of Cannabidiol to Cannabinol
Structure of Cannabidiol. VI. Isomerization of Cannabidiol to Tetrahydrocannabinol, a Physiologically Active Product. Conversion of Cannabidiol to Cannabinol
Note: Hydrogen sulfide smells like rotten eggs and is toxic. So don't try this procedure in an enclosed area.
CBN can be made directly from THC in a laboratory. Roger Adams did it in 1940.
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I have a small stash of old flower that was accidentally left in a storage locker in the southwest US for 9-10 years. It was triple wrapped in freezer rated ziploc baggies, and then wrapped inside of a thick black garbage bag, which in turn was packed inside of a cardboard box.
I cannot overstate the effect this cbn rich flower has had on my sleep. I would like to ensure i always have a supply.
We know that heat, light and time are factors in the conversion of thc to cbn, and it appears the process occurs through oxidation. In my case, oxygen would have been the limiting factor in the oxidation equation, as there were very small quantities of O2 available in the individual bags. Light was also not a factor.
So the question remains, what is the best available method for the home hobbyist to convert the THC into CBN with their favorite flower?
troutman
Seed Whore
I think harvesting very late is the easiest way for most people to get CBN richer buds.
Examination of 2% cannabinoid herb from the beginning of Mississippi's university pot farming have their peak amounts of CBN at 1 year at 50 C or 2 years at 37 C. The peak fell at the higher temperature.
This never happens cleanly and the loss of THC and THCA is usually much more than the gain in CBN. Maybe CBN and/or THC is volatilizing, or condensations of THC, CBN, or intermediates with themselves or other substances in the plant occur. Perhaps some weird things get converted to CBN in the GC, and HPLC might show less CBN. Of course the terpene profile and other cannabinoids are affected, but not CBD.
Speaking of GC again ebay has a few of those golden oldies and some are even in working order with important things like chemstation and extras like MS. They might not get cheaper or more available than this.
This talk about time and temperature makes me wonder about the butter I make. I stopped doing a decarb step on the ABV, and now just dump it right into a butter/water mix in a crock pot. That mix will boil for hours (at 212*F because of the water), and the subsequent cookies have a pretty good sleep effect at night. I wonder if the time at 212* can be optimized. I now just cook the material until it is just broken down to a water soaked mush, about 6 hours.
The butter is separated from the water after overnight in the fridge. When it is time to make a batch of cookies, the butter and some lechithin is heated to 250* to melt it. There are no bubbles forming, so I assume the decarb is complete.
Any thoughts or ideas on how long the butter should be cooked when extracting fromthe material?
The butter is separated from the water after overnight in the fridge. When it is time to make a batch of cookies, the butter and some lechithin is heated to 250* to melt it. There are no bubbles forming, so I assume the decarb is complete.
Any thoughts or ideas on how long the butter should be cooked when extracting fromthe material?
May I suggest that you use Ghee rather than butter. It dramatically improves the taste by not extracting so much chlorophyll.
https://graywolfslair.com/index.php...action/9-4-5-vegetable-and-nut-oil-extraction
