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Hail Hydro 2.0: New Beginnings
- Thread starter PetFlora
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Transferring to the f & d totes requires careful prep. I neglected to properly check water level inside both totes (the new totes are deeper)
The left plant root system is much longer. The plant on the right was a bit droopy, so I ran a flood while watching the level inside that tote. It was barely enough to get some of the roots wet/fed, this result with rez fully drained. Since the level in my igloo rez was low enough, I simply added more nutes and increased the flood cycle time by 4 seconds.
Also, going to bump the light schedule from ~ 12/12 to 14/10
The left plant root system is much longer. The plant on the right was a bit droopy, so I ran a flood while watching the level inside that tote. It was barely enough to get some of the roots wet/fed, this result with rez fully drained. Since the level in my igloo rez was low enough, I simply added more nutes and increased the flood cycle time by 4 seconds.
Also, going to bump the light schedule from ~ 12/12 to 14/10
I added a flooming pump to the igloo rez. It's on the same timer as the fan and the lpa pump in the other tent. Also, added a 1/4 tsp of NPK RAW Kelp
Looking at the roots, I need to get moving setting up the second tent with the Amare Technologies Pro3. Will use the Mega Crop nutes in that set up
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Looking at the roots, I need to get moving setting up the second tent with the Amare Technologies Pro3. Will use the Mega Crop nutes in that set up
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Roots are sufficiently long enough now.
An all day affair, but I now have the second 2 tote system up and running
Much of the time was taken up testing the 2 totes bulkheads to make sure no leaks before going into the tent. That took a good while
Since I only have 4 plants and am quite low on buds from my last pathetic yield, Im sticking with EH. I probably won't finish it off this grow either, but for sure will fire up the Mega Crop next grow
An all day affair, but I now have the second 2 tote system up and running
Much of the time was taken up testing the 2 totes bulkheads to make sure no leaks before going into the tent. That took a good while
Since I only have 4 plants and am quite low on buds from my last pathetic yield, Im sticking with EH. I probably won't finish it off this grow either, but for sure will fire up the Mega Crop next grow
Update
In previous grows using my DIY shallow bubbler, the roots outgrew the tote. That caused root hammocking, a problem that forced me to move them into the F & D too soon. Often, the roots simply were not long enough, which resulted in droopy plants. Not with the lpa system, where transfer had no droop in ~ 16 hours
Picture with diy rez is of the 2 smallest plants. These were started at the same time as the other 2. I was using a 4 head manifold which was not ideal, AND, the large root mass male (was in the middle) blocked these roots from getting proper wettings. It was removed a few weeks back. Also I redesigned the manifold
The roots bounced back, but most likely these plants will be stunted. Dunno. Fingers crossed, but as usual; lessons learned
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In previous grows using my DIY shallow bubbler, the roots outgrew the tote. That caused root hammocking, a problem that forced me to move them into the F & D too soon. Often, the roots simply were not long enough, which resulted in droopy plants. Not with the lpa system, where transfer had no droop in ~ 16 hours
Picture with diy rez is of the 2 smallest plants. These were started at the same time as the other 2. I was using a 4 head manifold which was not ideal, AND, the large root mass male (was in the middle) blocked these roots from getting proper wettings. It was removed a few weeks back. Also I redesigned the manifold
The roots bounced back, but most likely these plants will be stunted. Dunno. Fingers crossed, but as usual; lessons learned
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Trying to stop the bud development, or at least slow it down, I added ~ 200ppm of EH Grow, bringing TDS to ~ 700ppm/1.2EC. Crossing my fingers for some decent stretch
Also, I defoled the 2 biggest plants, which may or may not help kick them back into veg
Also, I defoled the 2 biggest plants, which may or may not help kick them back into veg
Since defol a couple days ago the low branches on the indica dom have grown quite a bit, the other 3 seem more 50/50, but the inner node branches seem to be taking off
Over the last 3 days I have been replacing ~ 1/2g of EH 3 part veg/day. EC now ~ 1.2 (500 scale)= ~ 580ppm
I think it's working to kick start veg growth. Fingers crossed
Here's an article on enzymes https://www.maximumyield.com/enzyme-energy/2/2101
Over the last 3 days I have been replacing ~ 1/2g of EH 3 part veg/day. EC now ~ 1.2 (500 scale)= ~ 580ppm
I think it's working to kick start veg growth. Fingers crossed
Here's an article on enzymes https://www.maximumyield.com/enzyme-energy/2/2101
Update
Decided to defol the 2 smaller plants today. WTF? I noticed that the feeder tube had separated from the pump riser= no nutes feeding the plants. Good thing my nutes are clear enough to see. I did notice secondary leafs were curled, which could be from not getting fed or from blending grow and bloom nutrients in my effort to reinvigorate growth
It's only been 4 days since i defoled the two bigger plants, but damn, the bottom has exploded, especially on the right side, which is indica dom, whereas the other 3 seem more 50/50
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Decided to defol the 2 smaller plants today. WTF? I noticed that the feeder tube had separated from the pump riser= no nutes feeding the plants. Good thing my nutes are clear enough to see. I did notice secondary leafs were curled, which could be from not getting fed or from blending grow and bloom nutrients in my effort to reinvigorate growth
It's only been 4 days since i defoled the two bigger plants, but damn, the bottom has exploded, especially on the right side, which is indica dom, whereas the other 3 seem more 50/50
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While reading a fascinating article about a Geezer who recreated/back-engineered Northern Lights, I decided to use the tall Indca male (harvested 6 days ago) and pollinate a low branch from the Indica dom female
http://southeastlights.com/journal.html
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http://southeastlights.com/journal.html
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Taking Care Of What Takes Care Of You
By Charles U. Farley / April 16, 2018
Genetics and environment, that’s what separates phenomenal cannabis from the ordinary. There should be no great debate on which is more determinant, just like the Christmas movie Trading Places, it's both genetics and environment. With cannabis, great genetics can overcome the adversity of a poor environment and still produce above average THC levels, much more readily than average genetics can produce in an optimal environment. In my experience, there is no dramatic improvement to be gained by attempting to super-optimize the environment with exotic fertilizers, soil additives or CO2 supplementation.
Begin with superior genetics, provide the proper environment and take care of the plant as it develops.
Lotta truth there. I really do need to invest in seed quality
By Charles U. Farley / April 16, 2018
Genetics and environment, that’s what separates phenomenal cannabis from the ordinary. There should be no great debate on which is more determinant, just like the Christmas movie Trading Places, it's both genetics and environment. With cannabis, great genetics can overcome the adversity of a poor environment and still produce above average THC levels, much more readily than average genetics can produce in an optimal environment. In my experience, there is no dramatic improvement to be gained by attempting to super-optimize the environment with exotic fertilizers, soil additives or CO2 supplementation.
Begin with superior genetics, provide the proper environment and take care of the plant as it develops.
Lotta truth there. I really do need to invest in seed quality
Update
as mentioned earlier in this thread, all 4 plants were started at the same time, but 2 plant roots (that turned out to be males) were in the middle of the lpa aero misters which prevented the smallest 2 from getting sufficient nutes. consequently, they're ~ 2 weeks behind. Will they catch up? dunno, but, they are bulking up, and stretching
the 2 biggest are really packing on the bulk since defol, , best seen in the dark with a flash light
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as mentioned earlier in this thread, all 4 plants were started at the same time, but 2 plant roots (that turned out to be males) were in the middle of the lpa aero misters which prevented the smallest 2 from getting sufficient nutes. consequently, they're ~ 2 weeks behind. Will they catch up? dunno, but, they are bulking up, and stretching
the 2 biggest are really packing on the bulk since defol, , best seen in the dark with a flash light
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i will clean everything up for you Pet Flora, but you might want to think about why this keeps happening. i know things don't always go as planned, but when you have 1 fingered plants with burnt fingers and only just started flowering, you have to accept that something isn't ideal.
i just helped a mate set something up recently and he was insisting to keep it simple as he'd never done it before. i took it to heart and made the plan and supplies list for a plain old soil grow in pots of light mix earth and some canna flowers every 2 or 3rd watering depending how they are looking. he has bigger buds now then another mate who wanted to do the same as me with coco. don't ask me what he is doing as coco is easy as fuck but he consistently gets the flowers to start ripening early which stops the full potential being developed. point is your water culture is not really serving you well from what i can see. why not go back to the basic soil set up for 1 run and see how it goes. or even just put 1 pot with some good soil in there as an experiment.
i just helped a mate set something up recently and he was insisting to keep it simple as he'd never done it before. i took it to heart and made the plan and supplies list for a plain old soil grow in pots of light mix earth and some canna flowers every 2 or 3rd watering depending how they are looking. he has bigger buds now then another mate who wanted to do the same as me with coco. don't ask me what he is doing as coco is easy as fuck but he consistently gets the flowers to start ripening early which stops the full potential being developed. point is your water culture is not really serving you well from what i can see. why not go back to the basic soil set up for 1 run and see how it goes. or even just put 1 pot with some good soil in there as an experiment.
I finally broke down 2 years ago and bought one
https://hightimes.com/grow/connoiss...d-plants/?utm_referrer=https://zen.yandex.com
https://hightimes.com/grow/connoiss...d-plants/?utm_referrer=https://zen.yandex.com
First, thanks for cleaning up GBs poop.
I have many excellent hydro grows, as my harvested bud pics clearly showed to the idiot who posted a budding plant at least 4 weeks ahead of mine as a comparison. WTF?
Soil/less does not work for me indoors, although males and females that I have finished outdoors often look considerably healthier.
Not sure why this grow my plants started flowering so early. I decided to attempt to reveg them, which has worked, but left me with single blade leafs. That aside, no matter how they look, they do produce really good- to excellent buds. You know the old saying "You can't tell a book by its cover"
Hopefully, CB gets his toilet fixd permanently so he doesn't shit in my thread anymore
its true you can't judge a book by it's cover, and some genetics are way harder to grow then others. i hate when i get clones that are half way in flower, takes for ever to get back to normal multi fingered leaves.
is the space fully dark when the lights go off? a small light leak is enough to mess up the rythim with more delicate genetics, many dont realize that the 12 hours un interrupted darkness is just as important as the 12 hours of light. if all the calyxes swell up it will be a nice bud in the end.
is the space fully dark when the lights go off? a small light leak is enough to mess up the rythim with more delicate genetics, many dont realize that the 12 hours un interrupted darkness is just as important as the 12 hours of light. if all the calyxes swell up it will be a nice bud in the end.
Thanks for your thoughts.
My grow room has some very low light until night falls (usually within 60 minutes), but it has always been this way (including the good grows). windows are covered, tent doors left open
I never went to bed with an ugly woman, but woke up with a few. LOL
And I have had several gorgeous women with great bodies who were AWFUL in bed
Although mostly mono leafs (there are a few tri leafs) they are big and healthy
Look awesome man , great job
Thanks. I wouldn't go as far as awesome, but considering where the girls were, I'm pretty happy with how they've 'recsponded'.
