Heavy Marijuana Users Earn Less

abellguy · Apr 24, 2012

zbenjii said:
the risks of marijuana should be laid out on the table. there is no benefit to the community in sweeping it under the rug

Nobody is sweeping anything under the rug. There are people that choose to smoke and there are people who choose not to smoke, that's pretty simple.

What really sucks is when you go to a Doctor pay him money to prescribe you pain pills, anti-depressants or one of many other harmful drugs not telling you the risks. While at the same time making you feel as if your not being good to your health or body if you were to choose not to take the medication. Then you go to the drugstore pay more money for the medication and all its gonna do is have bad long term effects on you :rasta:

Jah is speaking just listen to the birds, plants and animals are all messengers
So just seek and you will find elation, cause Jah earth and all in it we are one creation so be aware....

Weird · Apr 24, 2012

babylon and zion are destinations within the mind

Hydro-Soil · Apr 25, 2012

sso said:
maybe heavy cannabis users just don´t want to be the guy that "produces at a maximum potential".

what does that entail ?

usually, being somebodies bitch 24/7 for a limited wealth and benefits.

kissing ass (making social connections)

behaving a certain way and fitting the mold (complete loss of personal freedom, you golf because you are supposed to, you have this car because you are supposed to, you have this sort of wife, cause you are supposed to)

and going your own way (legally) well,,thats a lot of hardwork for a lottery´s chances at success including a heavy chance of a heart attack before 50.

i could go on, but really, this does not seem worth the "wealth" and "prestige" this brings..

you dont really need that much to have a good life..

and the less time you spend reaching for gold, could be spent having some of the real wealth in the world.

good times.

The less programmed I get, the less money I'm able to make in the current economy. It's run by programmed socialist bitches. *shrug* Wtf do you expect?

That and... heavy toking pretty much destroys your desire to deal with petty, douchebags on a daily basis... pretty much required to make a shit-ton of money these days. (Unless you started with a shit-ton of money already)

Stay Safe! :blowbubbles:

p.s. Personally I don't see any difference in "competency" between tokers and non-tokers... the public is pretty much retarded these days.

huligun · Apr 25, 2012

Skip is so right in his first post on this thread, it is the law that ruins people's lives. Many are ruined before they are even an adult.

I was out of work and applying not too long ago. A company ran a background check on me and said I could not work for them because I have a misdemeanor arrest for marijuana in another state. They most ironic thing is that the state I would be working in would not arrest you for that much marijuana medical or not. It is a traffic fine that is rarely enforced here. Still... I lost a job opportunity dealing and brokering art because of a 3 gram arrest in another state.

I got a job though, and it is not a problem. Who wants to work for a company that has a stick up it's ass about weed?

Oh... And I bring home over $1500 a week. Not a lot, but not minimum wage. I smoke every day and I sell to a lot people that have big money that smoke every day.

Infinitesimal · Apr 25, 2012

zbenjii said:
the risks of marijuana should be laid out on the table. there is no benefit to the community in sweeping it under the rug

yeah but your not telling anyone here any news! so whats the point?
everyone here has heard all that kind of stuff before. we may have not seen some "official" study before but we've all been told all r whole lives that smoking pots for losers, it turns into a loser, and on and on.
and we've all done our own experiments and found that and all the other stuff you've said today to be far from the truth. yes theres risk a small chance of lung damage due to chronic long turn cannabis smoke. but u don't have to smoke it.

you act like... but your not saving the community here your getting a lot of bad rep i see though.

you seem more like a cop than a savior, you said you "make money on marijuana" oh just how by putting humans beings in cages for it? thats just how you come off

Infinitesimal · Apr 25, 2012

zbenjii said:
This study shows there is a higher chance of earning a lower income when ingesting marijuana. It also shows that people that ingest more marijuana are more likely to earn a lower wage.

This does not mean every marijuana smoker will earn a lower wage than every non smoker. It just means marijuana smokers are a certain percent more likely to earn a lower wage and heavier smokers tend to make even less.

Infinitesimal said:
what role does the amount one earns in a monetary sense play in determining the overall success of a human life?

peace,
Infi

answer me this?

EDIT: awwwh... someone can't come up with a reasonable answer to the question, so they dislike it boohoo. i wonder who that could be? lol

pine boy · Apr 25, 2012

Fluffy Clouds said:
fuck money, smoke weed

Quote for truth! :ying:

DiscoBiscuit · Apr 25, 2012

I know a guy who got fired for smoking weed. He didn't know how he'd been caught and assumed somebody was repeating a rumor about his extracurricular activities.

So his boss calls him in to fire his ass and dude asks who ratted him out. The boss told him the two were sitting next to each other at a traffic light and dude was, "toking the hell out of that thing."

:biglaugh:

PuReKnOwLeDgE · Apr 25, 2012

This is one of the reasons the goverment doens't like weed, the less we earn the less they make through taxes. Can't have a bunch of lazy slaves!

Infinitesimal · Apr 25, 2012

DiscoBiscuit said:
I know a guy who got fired for smoking weed. He didn't know how he'd been caught and assumed somebody was repeating a rumor about his extracurricular activities.

So his boss calls him in to fire his ass and dude asks who ratted him out. The boss told him the two were sitting next to each other at a traffic light and dude was, "toking the hell out of that thing."

yep he's instantly a bad employee and deserves to be fired for not following the rules of the dictator

peace,
Infi

bombadil.360 · Apr 25, 2012

zbenjii said:
i have a bit of experience smoking pot.. but I'm disillusioned. Yeah bud is awesome and it feels great to be high. I've realized that there are costs to this feeling. Everyone should be aware that these costs exist and should take them into consideration.

that's all due to your own personal folly, not due to anything else.

is it cannabis fault that you approach its use with the assumption that you could use cannabis as much as you wanted and not alter some way or another your everyday awareness?

problem with people and cannabis, or any other hallucinogenic/entheogen, is that the user must first know what he's getting into, he must also have a certain degree of talent to be able to handle the perceptual changes associated with the experience.

if you could not do this, this mean you either do not have the degree of talent necessary, or that you simply thought using a hallucinogenic daily was the same as drinking water; or both. anyway, it is all your own fault and folly.

those are the facts, so stop trying to victimize yourself, out of all places here, and stop looking for scape-goats in order to avoid accepting your own folly.

damn, I wrote 'folly' like a hundred times already...

be good

Infinitesimal · Apr 25, 2012

bombadil.360 said:
that's all due to your own personal folly, not due to anything else.

is it cannabis fault that you approach its use with the assumption that you could use cannabis as much as you wanted and not alter some way or another your everyday awareness?

problem with people and cannabis, or any other hallucinogenic/entheogen, is that the user must first know what he's getting into, he must also have a certain degree of talent to be able to handle the perceptual changes associated with the experience.

if you could not do this, this mean you either do not have the degree of talent necessary, or that you simply thought using a hallucinogenic daily was the same as drinking water; or both. anyway, it is all your own fault and folly.

those are the facts, so stop trying to victimize yourself, out of all places here, and stop looking for scape-goats in order to avoid accepting your own folly.

damn, I wrote 'folly' like a hundred times already...

be good

its a folly volley lol..... damn i'm tired lol

bombadil.360 · Apr 25, 2012

I heard a folly volley was full of ballony :chin:

sso · Apr 25, 2012

Infinitesimal said:
answer me this?

EDIT: awwwh... someone can't come up with a reasonable answer to the question, so they dislike it boohoo. i wonder who that could be? lol

interestingly ive never met anyone that was truly likeable and had wealth or was interested in money (other than to survive)

they often had a certain thing about them that made me distrust them, usually somewhat like a sleazy used carsalesman.

and worse, when it usually revolves around status,those kinda people classify you into

"someone to imitate" (get as rich as or richer)

"peers" (competitors)

"useful" (slaves)

"worthless" (someone with no money or able to bring you some)

it really seems that to succeed you must become a sociopath.

its like a game to them, get a castle and amass power

get alot of stuff and the means to get more stuff (toys)

or you are worthless.

though the true sociopaths (the successful one´s) game is all about controlling people, like remote controlled toys.

sometimes makes me wonder if this is nature´s way of bringing predator´s into the system (life)

to keep down our numbers till we actually grow some brains (usually the way to gain your money or be able to control you is through lies)

it takes a sociopath to start a war

or to enslave children to make footwear.

DoobieDuck · Apr 25, 2012

zbenjii said:
http://etd.lib.clemson.edu/documents/1306872757/Carnot_clemson_0050M_11171.pdf

As you can see, the estimated decrease in income at the age of 23 for each day of marijuana use as a teen and each day of cigarette use as a teen are $70.38 and $90.16 respectively, while each day of alcohol use as a 16 year old is estimated to increase future earnings by an average of $233.69. The coefficients for the level of alcohol consumption and the level of cigarette consumption are both significantly different from zero at a 99% confidence level, while the coefficient for the number of days of marijuana use is only found to be significant at a 90% confidence level. Still, this regression is consistent with the previous results in this paper that suggested alcohol use as a teen was expected to increase future income, while both marijuana and cigarette use as a 16 year old was found to decrease earnings in young adults.

My first thoughts were: maybe..but if you drink you're likely to be killed before reaching 35 and if you smoke you'll be spending all your retirement on medical costs. Let's don't try and make cannabis worse than cigs or booze..Cheers..DD

paladin420 · Apr 25, 2012

Damn I always thought it was because of my long hair!!

lost in a sea · Apr 25, 2012

comes down to materialism imo

Skip · Apr 25, 2012

sso said:
interestingly ive never met anyone that was truly likeable and had wealth or was interested in money (other than to survive)

they often had a certain thing about them that made me distrust them, usually somewhat like a sleazy used carsalesman.

and worse, when it usually revolves around status,those kinda people classify you into

"someone to imitate" (get as rich as or richer)

"peers" (competitors)

"useful" (slaves)

"worthless" (someone with no money or able to bring you some)

it really seems that to succeed you must become a sociopath.

its like a game to them, get a castle and amass power

get alot of stuff and the means to get more stuff (toys)

or you are worthless.

though the true sociopaths (the successful one´s) game is all about controlling people, like remote controlled toys.

sometimes makes me wonder if this is nature´s way of bringing predator´s into the system (life)

to keep down our numbers till we actually grow some brains (usually the way to gain your money or be able to control you is through lies)

it takes a sociopath to start a war

or to enslave children to make footwear.

How true!

Once upon a time kids, it was easy for an American to just drop out of the system, pick a nice spot on a remote beach and live off the grid indefinitely.

But during the course of my life and that of my peers, we have watched as society has eliminated one freedom after another, all with the goal of turning us into 9-5 slaves for the SYSTEM.

You can't just go live on a beach or in a forest anymore. You can't hardly do anything without being part of this damn SYSTEM.

Are all you growers part of the system now? Growers have always been the rebels, who reject society's restrictions on what we can and can't do. Putting your lives on the line for what you believe in, and protesting the system thru your grows.

Your grows can provide financial independence so you're not a slave to the system. And if that independence makes it seem you're not "earning" enough, who is qualified to make that judgement? Someone IN THE SYSTEM? No! Of course they're not going to like your lifestyle because it shows them it's possible to live just outside the system and survive, and indeed prosper.

You are FREE, they are SLAVES and they resent you for it!

So pity those who slave for the system. They will never be free, they will always be in debt, doing the bidding of their masters.

Long Live the FREE GROWERS! :dance013:

SeaMaiden · Apr 25, 2012

I try to be ready to have my assumptions challenged, and this does that. I have only perused the study and responses, so won't try to offer up yet another opinion. I would first have to examine the whole scenario more closely, first.

But, I will say this--I have always attributed my earning potential and status to my choices, not whether or not I use a particular substance.

40AmpstoFreedom · Apr 25, 2012

I think heavy MJ smokers earn less reported income

While some chalk it up as less materialism as well. If people that were involved with MJ were allowed to have more of a free market and were treated like everyone else who are allowed to have storefronts instead of being thrown in jail incomes as well as reporting of incomes would sky rocket. Since all of society has been fashioned to eliminate or cordon off those who use drugs in our society such as mandatory drug testing at nearly every job provider, discrimination by employers of MJ users with criminal records, and declining to give people with 'criminal' drug records financial aid for college, incomes would also rise. It is the same economic premise that racism and sexism will ruin a businesses bank account because they eliminate a huge potential of income revenue by discriminating. The same discrimination is applied to MJ users and it is completely nonsensical.

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