RomulanJake
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Interesting you should say that.. I'm selfing the clone cut of Romulan that I have. The one that my Pops buddy kept alive for a long time, and when I got a hold of it I had it sent off to tissue culture. Since she grows so differently than most of the phenos, with a much more pronounced thai influence in branch/bud structure you now have my interest peaked if I might see some things happen in the progeny of her S1 offspring?
Have you made any seeds or is it still from last round of breeding? Lol how old are the seeds your germinating? You might have some tips on old seed stock a lot of people would like...
Sorry if I’m bothering you I’m (I guess it’s obvious at this point) just really into trying to pin down as much as possible before the whole world jumps into a genetics argument like with some other strains.. the more it’s documented now from the guy who has most of the story the better we can interpret what we see in the line as it continues to develop..
I’m just foggy on when the Columbian bx happened and if seeds have been made since then and if so how many times (generations inbred) and wether they were an open pollination or you or someone else did some selection or what have you..
Lol I promise I’ll (probably) leave you alone after this one
If I’m pushing for info that doesn’t exist no biggie I just figured I and the other weed nerds out there might as well ask since you have so many other good answers
Wow.. I am so stoned I had to read this last one like 10 times to get a hold of it.. lol
Okay, so I made the regular seeds I am selling from the old seed stock that was handed down to me. I wrapped up that project a while ago, and have been testing the hell out of those seeds I harvested prior to releasing them.
The old seed stock (that I eventually got to germinate) were very old... but I cant guess at how old. All I know is that I was told that they were from either the 1st batch, or the next 2, of the originals. I know the people who grew them, and eventually left them to me had a tendency to grow for seeds only once in a while. Getting thousands in one harvest, and not needing more seeds for years. So that makes me guess, that not many ever got past an F3 from the originals.
I was told chances were about 0% of getting the old seeds to be viable, and man oh man do I love challenges.. so I took it just as that. I gave up a few times in frustration, even publicly telling people that my search for a good male was over and just not going to ever happen. In the end what worked best was a combination of soaks and using a specially made seed cracker. It probably was the cracker more than anything, but I know the soaks helped with the end viability. I found early on that with a ton of effort I could get some seeds to pop, but they often died shortly after that. So I talked to a lot of old growers and heard some of their methods with soaking the seeds, scoring the skins, and using seed crackers to get them to open up on a more consistent basis. I then used some other old school tricks people told me to try, to eventually get the seedlings to have a decent viability rate. Ill have to dig up the info on the stuff I used, to be able to really help anyone more in that area.
I finally got to where I was able to do a few large scale runs, and hunted through for the male I was looking for.. and along the way I found a female that I decided to breed with, instead of the clone cut which had been my plan all along. I came to the conclusion that mixing those could be going backwards in the genetics, and I only wanted to move in a forward direction. I also had the idea that trying to preserve the old stock, rather than breeding my known stable female in the clone I had to a male, would be a much better project in regards to me doing my part with this plant. Then it hit me that it was the only way to go, that if by crossing it to the clone I fucked things up and moved away from what the original stock had in them, that I would be doing no one but myself a favor.
Now when the Colombian bx came in with the old growers, what was told to me was that was sort of the point of where all these growers working together said, "yeah, we did it.. thats it." And stopped focusing on breeding that plant into what they wanted. Any seeds made after that were only for more seed stock. I have no idea how they bred the plants, no old notes, just oral stories and some memories of being around some shit as a kid. So I cant say, but only can guess, at whether they open pollinated, how they did the original breeding and selecting if at all, etc.. My guess is open pollination up until they backed it into the Colombian, essentially the last of the breeding of her. After that, I assume they selected plants to make more seed stock and used isolation rather than open pollinating.
Hope that helps my brother!
