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Hurry, meeting an aptus rep, what questions would you ask?
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Cool, can you ask:why in the US does it cost $200 for 250ml of fasiltor and the same bottle is bought for €37 in Europe? Also can you find out if there planning on releasing a base nutrient other than the pellets or whatever they have currently I.e something that would replace heavy 16, canna etc like most people use with there additives.
Thanks kit-
Thanks kit-
yah y so much $?
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Well not Aptus but this is what GH has to say: The debate on "Organics" and "Hydroponics"
I'd ask him if it is possible to get better results with any new products they have in the pipeline and what makes there hocus pocus that much more than what is currently the horticultural industry standaed.
I would also ask if their product has any serious accreditations from leaders of the horticultural world for it performance and if not why not..
Definatly ask what is Aptus doing about ecoligy and sustainability for the planet and what there current goals are for the coming year.
Ask them about charity donations and any work that they have done/will do for the community, and any forseable legal implications that certain ingreedients that make up there product may fall under in due course when retailing in different regions and if they have any specific procedures in place going forward into the new year to deal with such difficulties.
These should provoke awkward responses. keep the guy on a knife edge.
I would also ask if their product has any serious accreditations from leaders of the horticultural world for it performance and if not why not..
Definatly ask what is Aptus doing about ecoligy and sustainability for the planet and what there current goals are for the coming year.
Ask them about charity donations and any work that they have done/will do for the community, and any forseable legal implications that certain ingreedients that make up there product may fall under in due course when retailing in different regions and if they have any specific procedures in place going forward into the new year to deal with such difficulties.
These should provoke awkward responses. keep the guy on a knife edge.
vertigo0007
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i second that.....
Burning Tree
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What PGR that they use
Really though do you think this is free of PGR's? Im starting to get a bit skeptical and am holding off for now.
vertigo0007
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When I first got he product I used a double dose of FASILITOR for the first 21 days and saw no noticeable difference in stretch and felt quite ripped off actually..BUT..now I use it much more sparingly and I feel like it's worth every penny. But to each it's own.
Looking forward to hearing the lecture.
Looking forward to hearing the lecture.
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im totally digging this line. i double dose the fascilatator once in week 2 of flowering and it did seem to slow them down but it was very little. my plants did bush out a lil more than normal. im growing a couple of different ogs and chem4 in organic soil
Burning Tree
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Same things I am hearing. Sounds like bushmaster to me. No thanks. Someone should send it off for GC/MS. Might get a late night visit from the Aptus "Rep" lol
^that makes no sense and is just an uneducated estimation..bushmaster halts vertical growth almost completely and is VERY touchy on how much you can use. The Fasilitor can be used at with much less caution (I've heard of one person adding 5ml per gal..without any burn or negative effects!) and all around doesn't provide the same results at all. So why discredit something you have no experience with? Keep going off what your "hearing", I'll just keep doing and learning from first hand results.
I find it sad that so many discredit something just because they have their doubts or because "some guy at the hydro shop" tells you otherwise. There has to be a reason why people would spend so much on additive products, then go back and buy them again, and that's because for those trying it..IT WORKS! I have yet to hear of one person who has tried this product *in a well maintained environment* and didn't see noticeable change. You think I like spending 600+ on a single liter of an additive??..NO, but I will until the price lowers as I find it worth it when only used sparingly. I have never hit 2 pounds per light and since using it, minus an extremely HOT run of cookies in the dead of summer, I've hit 2lb on every table ever since.
I find it sad that so many discredit something just because they have their doubts or because "some guy at the hydro shop" tells you otherwise. There has to be a reason why people would spend so much on additive products, then go back and buy them again, and that's because for those trying it..IT WORKS! I have yet to hear of one person who has tried this product *in a well maintained environment* and didn't see noticeable change. You think I like spending 600+ on a single liter of an additive??..NO, but I will until the price lowers as I find it worth it when only used sparingly. I have never hit 2 pounds per light and since using it, minus an extremely HOT run of cookies in the dead of summer, I've hit 2lb on every table ever since.
Dorky
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Fa$cilitor is nothing like paclo, alar or cycocel.
Those pgr's even slightly overdosed will give you smell less softball nugs
Hi, first post here, learned a lot so i have to give back... The faccilitor or regulator as it is named here in eu, might have a little of PGRs actulaly phytohormones... it cann not contain gibberelins, this plant hormone causes cell elongnation witch is contrary to the suposed effect of regulator/facilitor. Second it may contain the "pgr" cytokinin, but that's not such a bad thing, so does any kelp product or nytrozime... also it might contain auxins (not necessarily I3AA IBA etc..) these 2 combined in a ratio of 3:1 C:A will get you a plant released from apical dominance... actually any depletion of auxin will do that..
Second quote: For all of you who have troubles with plant height/ streching and don't want to use clormercat/daminozide/-azole, 40 minutes before "sunrise" drop temperature with 3 degrres Celsius, and keep it like that for at least another 40 min.
Burning Tree
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Sounds like someone is mad they bought it hook line and sinker from the hydro rep before seeing how it played out on the market. I for one am not being a guinea pig for some company. I see the results, I just do not trust there is not PGR's in it.
Can you really just blindly have faith in a company now a days? Especially after Humboldt County's Own's situation? I was "some guy at a hydro store" a year ago when we got calls from the distos that gravity and bushaster were being pulled off the shelves. I called HCO and asked if this was true why it was being pulled. They assured me it was a mistake and the products are perfectly safe for consumable crops as they are just seaweed blends and there was no recall. Now we all know the truth finally.
When it comes down to it I do not want to pass along a possibly cancerous product down my chain. There are people who use my product truly as medicine and also my friends and family partake in the herb. They are always my first thought when considering potential inputs into my gardens. If this ends up tested by a lab and shows no PGRs then sure I will bust it out. Until then the sample boxes I got are staying on the shelf gathering dust.
Congrats on 2 a light. But know its doable without fancy additives and nutrients for that matter. If this product is what it takes to get those numbers for you then I would re evaluate your environment, genetics and cropping parameters. We do that on the reg with 6 plants per 1k no co2 or fancy additives, perpetually. That's only 5.5 a plant there if you are doin some math, very achievable..
