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Old 05-05-2010, 02:04 AM #21
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How far into flower? I have used neem up to 3 weeks in flower...pyrethium bombs in the 4th week even....just set it off at lights out...

I haven't had any noticeable taste or smell in my harvested and cured crop. After the 4th week, other than getting your shop vac and adapting a way to pinpoint (straw or pen) the suction, I know of no way to put anything on the plants that you won't taste/smell...just my .04 cents (inflation & taxes)

Hey mile hi,
I use neem about two weeks in for a last shine and treatment for mites.
I'm 4 weeks in right now, going on 5 actually. I ordered what i thought was a dr doom bomb, but it is actually a spray can that you spray on the plants about 4 feet away? I'm kinda nervous to use it, but I guess I will give it a try. The mites are not that bad, just so far seem to be on one plant that i have pulled to the side. I want to treat her 1st, then after a day or two do the rest? A friend told me not to do that because then they will jump to another plant and that defeats the purpose. I just do not want to toast my whole garden, I thought I would try on one plant to see the results. Ever try this dr.doom spray can?
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Old 05-05-2010, 07:46 AM #22
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i just found out i got some eggs laying under my fan leaves yesterday!!!!!: eek:

i have used neem oil in the past and seems to work..
i have add neem oil with some soap and poison to spary.

im just wondering how does everyone on here uses it.


i stop by my store and they out of neem oil so i brought some foxfarm "DONT BUG ME" spary.
wondering if anyone uses before?

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Old 05-05-2010, 07:53 AM #23
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i just found out i got some eggs laying under my fan leaves yesterday!!!!!: eek:

i have used neem oil in the past and seems to work..
i have add neem oil with some soap and poison to spary.

im just wondering how does everyone on here uses it.


i stop by my store and they out of neem oil so i brought some foxfarm "DONT BUG ME" spary.
wondering if anyone uses before?

I use alternations of Don't Bug Me (pyrethrins) and Azatrol (azadiractin) in my veg, and early flower (befoe budding/swelling). Kills mites dead.
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"Don'tBugMe" is simply dried pyrethrum flowers which you can purchase from overseas via Alibaba.com, grow your own, or purchase powder under a name such as "Buhach" and neem oil is really cheap. Don't feel like you have to buy ready made stuff at a mark up. I know that we are all hurting a little in the wallet.
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Pyrethium is not a "flower" it comes from Chrysantimums (sp?)
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Oh really? That's funny because this is what it says here in the first paragraph of Wikipedia's entry for "Pyrethrum"

"Pyrethrum refers to several Old World plants of the genus Chrysanthemum (e.g., C. coccineum) which are cultivated as ornamentals for their showy flower heads. It is also the name of a natural insecticide made from the dried flower heads of C. cinerariifolium and C. coccineum."
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used neem 5 weeks into flower but would reduce rates, it has a browning effect on fan leaves.
even at 5 weeks no dif on taste or smell, just look, but not of finished product. probally would use Spinosad active ingredient after week 4, less harmful to fan leaves
Neem really shouldn't burn your fan leaves if applied at the right concentration. Only spray every 3 days. Another thing that will prevent burning is to raise your light a little while you are using it.
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I just find that Neem is better earlier. I prefer Spinosad products after 4 weeks of flower. They will not kill eggs so you gotta spray again 5 days later but after that I have not had problems.
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Hm, I switched to FLoramite a few years back and will never use anything else again. It's the only that works for 3 weeks and prevents infestation, and the only ovicide I could find. It is safe on tomatoes though, here's a clip right from their label:

FLORAMITE SC is a selective miticide for the control of a variety
of mite pests on the following plants:
• All ornamental plants, including bedding plants, flowering
plants, foliage plants, bulb crops, perennials, trees and
shrubs.
• All non-bearing fruit trees which will not bear fruit for a minimum
of 12 months.
• Greenhouse tomatoes, varieties greater than 1" in diameter
when mature.

I mix it with DM Penetrator to make it more systemic, only have to spray the tops of the leaves, and the whole plant becomes mite-proof.

I buy it off some Ebay guy, a couple oz at a time. Only take 1ml per gallon so it lasts a good while. Prepared sprays only good for 2 days though.
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Hm, I switched to FLoramite a few years back and will never use anything else again. It's the only that works for 3 weeks and prevents infestation, and the only ovicide I could find. It is safe on tomatoes though, here's a clip right from their label:

FLORAMITE SC is a selective miticide for the control of a variety
of mite pests on the following plants:
• All ornamental plants, including bedding plants, flowering
plants, foliage plants, bulb crops, perennials, trees and
shrubs.
• All non-bearing fruit trees which will not bear fruit for a minimum
of 12 months.
• Greenhouse tomatoes, varieties greater than 1" in diameter
when mature.

I mix it with DM Penetrator to make it more systemic, only have to spray the tops of the leaves, and the whole plant becomes mite-proof.

I buy it off some Ebay guy, a couple oz at a time. Only take 1ml per gallon so it lasts a good while. Prepared sprays only good for 2 days though.

Can DM Penetrator be used with pesticides effectively? I was using the floramite/Penetrator combo until I checked the ph of the finished mix at 10+ph... I thought the finished spray should be at 5.5pH according to the Floramite label?

I noticed Rosemania sells a wetting agent which is ph buffered at 5.5 for pesticides; much cheaper than the gallon of Penetrator I bought.

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