Make-up???

GMT said:

Ignoring the slurs on my genetics knowledge lol, and tip toeing around being banned, if you accept that in extreme situations, it is clear that people will not be fat, then you have to accept that the level of bady fat can be controlled by controlling food intake.

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Although the brain uses up (typically) 80% of the body's calories (given a normal intake). So doubling all physical activity will only burn off 20% more calories than a normal day. Stress will typically burn off a similar additional level of calories, and so I accept that different people in different situations will need to eat differently to maintain the same weight, though that has little to do with genes. The metabolic rates of 2 people, one fatter and one thinner than the normal will show one has a higher rate and one a lower. But the higher rate is not in the thinner person. The body uses up more energy to maintain a larger body than a smaller one, so the metabolic rate needed is lower in the thinner person. There are genetic issues which in some people tell the body that it is never full, but that is very rare, and it is still the level of food eaten that dictates the size of the person.

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But back to make up, I think everyone would agree that in cases of disfigurement, then concealer is totally understandable, and frankly desirable by most. I hadn't considered that situation, I was merely talking about everyday useage by most people, as in a desire not to return to the 80s. But if we are talking about disfigurement and make up solutions, again in disfigurement cases I'm sure all would agree that plastic surgury is acceptable, but what about in terms of pure cosmetic vanity for the masses? Just an enhancement, or over the top? Would any of the ladies out there have a nose job or anything else done? Is that just a part of making oneself look better or is that something else?

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Dutchgrown said:

More than any other reason, and as a woman, I can honestly say that the use of make up is not for any other reason than one's own self-esteem....if a woman 'thinks' it makes her look more pleasing to another then that is a positive validation...the amount worn is up to the woman who is putting it on and looking in the mirror to find that 'acceptable' amount which makes 'her' feel like she looks better with it than without it...however much that amount may be...whether it's a couple of strokes of blush or foundation, blush, powder, eyeliner, eyeshadows, the list goes on and on and on..........bottom line, I believe women do it to feel good about themselves. Just take a look at the cover of any magazine...from women's mags to those geared towards men (cough...cough....insert Playboy etc here)....woman are always trying to make themselves appear in a look which 'we' think men find pleasing....for some it's easier to do than others...some women try too hard, does that make it wrong or are they lieing....I think not.

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Dutchgrown said:

Back in my grandmothers time...most women didn't wear make-up, or if they did it wasn't much at all...maybe some lip color....but as times progressed, and women were portrayed in magazines in a light of 'what's attractive' (like the playboy reference I made above) then most women in a quest to have their boyfriend, prospective boyfriend, husband, etc. find them to be just as attractive in that same sort of 'wow' way that men look at magazine models, well....it's a woman's way of trying to have the other person important to them 'see' them as attractive...whether it's actually needed or not....because if a woman feels good about herself (self-esteem) she then 'thinks' she is aesthetically pleasing to someone else and confidence is an overwhelming thing. Sure, chances are none of us are going to have that 'christy brinkley' look, but try try we do anyway...billions in sales to cosmetic companies proves that....why...because the majority of men who look at those perfect magazine faces and enjoy what they see send a subtle message to women that if they looked that way they'd receive positive validation...so for our self-esteem and how we 'think' we look to another becomes a driving force to please, to receive that 'wow honey, you look great tonight', or, 'damn you are so pretty today'...so we do it to please ourself as well as someone else...because if we please ourself in what we 'believe' another finds attractive, then in our own eyes when we look in the mirror we 'are' attractive. Much toooooo much emphasis is placed on the exterior appearance, when it 'should be' what's in a persons heart...there is no make-up to apply there.

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In order to understand the constantly changing trends in cosmetics, it is interesting to take a look at the evolution of makeup. Women and men have been wearing cosmetics for centuries, although the styles have certainly undergone some dramatic changes over time. Let's take a look at how cosmetics evolved.


The earliest historical record of makeup comes from the 1st Dynasty of Egypt (c.3100-2907 BC). Tombs from this era have revealed unguent jars, which in later periods were scented. Unguent was a substance extensively used by men and women to keep their skin hydrated and supple and to avoid wrinkles from the dry heat. The women of Egypt also decorated their eyes by applying dark green color to the under lid and blackening the lashes and the upper lid with kohl, which was made from antimony (a metallic element) or soot. It is believed that the Jews adopted the use of makeup from the Egyptians, since references to the painting of faces appear in the New Testament section of the Bible.

Roman philosopher Plautus (254-184 BC) wrote, "A woman without paint is like food without salt." Of course, Plautus was a dramatist, which would explain his preference for the look of a "painted woman" at that time.
Romans widely used cosmetics by the middle of the 1st century AD. Kohl was used for darkening eyelashes and eyelids, chalk was used for whitening the complexion, and rouge was worn on the cheek. Depilatories were utilized at that time and pumice was used for cleaning the teeth.

Women wore white lead and chalk on their faces in Greco-Roman society. Persian women used henna dyes to stain their hair and faces with the belief that these dyes enabled them to summon the majesty of the earth.

During the European middle ages, pale skin was a sign of wealth. Sixth century women sought drastic measures to achieve that look by bleeding themselves, although, in contrast, Spanish prostitutes wore pink makeup. Thirteenth century affluent women donned pink lipstick as proof they could afford synthetic makeup.

During the Italian Renaissance, lead pain was used to lighten the face, which was very damaging to the wearer. Aqua Toffana was a popular face powder named for its creator, Signora Toffana. Made from arsenic, Signora Toffana instructed her rich clientele to apply the makeup only when their husbands were around. It's interesting to note that Tofana was executed some six hundred dead husbands later.

Cosmetics were seen as a health threat in Elizabethan England, although women wore egg whites over their faces for a glazed look.

During the reign of Charles II, heavy makeup began to surface as a means to contradict the pallor from being inside due to illness epidemics.

During the French Restoration in the 18th century, red rouge and lipstick were used to give the impression of a healthy, fun-loving spirit.

Eventually, people in other countries became repulsed by excessive makeup and claimed the "painted" French had something to hide.

During the Regency era, the most important item was rouge, which was used by most everyone. At that time, eyebrows were blackened and hair was dyed. To prevent a low hairline, a forehead bandage dipped in vinegar in which cats dung had been steeped was worn. Most of the country dwellers' makeup recipes made use of herbs, flowers, fat, brandy, vegetables, spring water and, of course, crushed strawberries. During this era, white skin signified a life of leisure while skin exposed to the sun indicated a life of outdoor labor. In order to maintain a pale complexion, women wore bonnets, carried parasols, and covered all visible parts of their bodies with whiteners and blemish removers. Unfortunately, more than a few of these remedies were lethal.

The most dangerous beauty aids during this time were white lead and
mercury. They not only eventually ruined the skin but also caused hair loss, stomach problems, the shakes, and could even cause death. Although these dangers became known through the death of courtesan Kitty Fisher, the majority of women continued to use these deadly whiteners.

During the 1800's, women would use belladonna to make their eyes appear more luminous, even though they were aware it was poisonous. Many cosmetics were made by local pharmacists, known as apothecaries in England, and common ingredients included mercury and nitric acid. Hair dye was made from coal tar, which is now illegal in America.

It might interest you to know that men wore makeup until the 1850's. George IV spent a fortune on cold cream, powders, pastes, and scents. However, not all men wore makeup, as many looked upon a man with rouged cheeks as a dandy.

Here are some beauty-tip recipes utilized during the late 1800's:
*For freckle removal: bruise and squeeze the juice out of chick-weed, add three times its quantity of soft water, then bathe the skin for five to ten minutes morning and evening.
*As a wash for the complexion: one teaspoon of flour of sulphur and a wine glassful of lime water, well shaken and mixed with half a wine-glass of glycerine and a wine-glass of rose-water. Rub on the face every night before going to bed.
*To keep hair from turning gray: four ounces of hulls of butternuts were infused with a quart of water, to which half an ounce of copperas was added. This was to be applied with a soft brush every two to three days.
*For wrinkle removal: melt one ounce of white wax, add two ounces of juice of lily-bulbs, two ounces of honey, two drams of rose-water, and a drop or two of ottar of roses and use twice a day.

Victorians abhorred makeup and associated its use with prostitutes and actresses (many considered them one and the same). Any visible hint of tampering with one's natural color would be looked upon with disdain. At that time, a respectable woman would use home-prepared face masks, most of which were based on foods such as oatmeal, honey, and egg yolk. For cleansing, rosewater or scented vinegars were used. As a beauty regimen, a woman would pluck her eyebrows, massage castor oil into her eyelashes, use rice powder to dust her nose, and buff her nails to a shine. Lipstick was not used, but clear pomade would be applied to add sheen. However some of these products contained a dye to discretely enhance natural lip color. For a healthy look, red beet juice would be rubbed into the cheeks, or the cheeks would be pinched (out of sight, of course). For bright eyes, a drop of lemon juice in each eye would do the trick. When makeup began to resurface, full makeup was still seen as sinful, although natural tones were accepted to give a healthy, pink-cheek look.

The real evolution actually began during the 1910's. By then, women made their own form of mascara by adding hot beads of wax to the tips of their eyelashes. Some women would use petroleum jelly for this purpose. The first mascara formulated was named after Mabel, the sister of its creator, T. L. Williams, who utilized this method. This mascara is known today as Maybelline. In 1914, Max Factor introduced his pancake makeup. Vogue featured Turkish women using henna to outline their eyes, and the movie industry immediately took interest. This technique made the eyes look larger, and the word "vamp" became associated with these women, vamp being short for vampire.

During this decade, the first pressed powders were introduced which included a mirror and puff for touchups. Pressed powder blush followed soon after. The lipstick metal case, invented by Maurice Levy, became popular. Also, during this time, lipstick was tattooed onto the lips by George Burchett, who was also known as the "Beauty Doctor". This method did not always work, and you can imagine the terrible consequences.

The earliest version of an acid peel was utilized at this time, which was a combination of acid and electric currents applied to the skin. Also, a needle would be used to insert paraffin to the eye area and cheeks, although this, too, was not very successful. Nivea cream made its appearance in Germany, and companies, in order to compete, began creating creams consisting of Vaseline mixed with fragrance.

To help with sagging jowls and double-chins, women could purchase for wear a weird-looking contraption with chin straps, which obviously did not work.

However, the Victorian look remained in fashion until mass makeup marketing came about during the 1920's. The newly emancipated woman of America began to display her independence by free use of red lipstick, which was often scented with cherry. By the late '20's, visible makeup was considered a must by rural women but was still frowned upon by the country girls. During this decade, lip gloss was introduced by Max Factor. New shades of red lipstick were developed, although were soap-based and very drying. The first eyelash curler came on the scene, called Kurlash. Even though it was expensive and difficult to use, this did not detract from its popularity. Mascara in cake and cream form was extremely vogue.

From the 1930's through the 1950's, various movie stars proved to be the models for current trends in makeup. Remember Audrey Hepburn's deeply outlined cat eyes? With the '60's and the hippies came a more liberated makeup look, from white lips and Egyptian-lined eyes to painted images on faces. Heavily lined eyes continued through the '70's and '80's with a wide range of eye shadow colors. Today's trend seems to have reverted to the more natural look with a blending of styles from the past.

In today's world, a woman has literally hundreds of cosmetics to choose from, with a wide variety of colors and uses. For a younger look, the options available are as simple as skin hydrators and rejuvenators, advancing to chemical skin peels, the now-popular Botox, collagen injections, and ending with the more-drastic surgical facelift.

It is important to reflect on one's inner beauty as the real beauty of a woman. Outer beauty will not remain forever, no matter what drastic measures are taken. We have all heard the saying, "The eyes are the windows to the soul". Look into your own orbits, take stock of the woman inside, and be happy with who you are. This will reflect on your outlook on life, which will send a message to others, and will be returned to you through their reactions to the beautiful you.

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