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THE DEEP STATE - I urge you all to watch these documentaries.

Pepé The Grower

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This time i'll just show some of the non-sense in your posts, hopefully you'll see the light.

"Gershom ben Judah ... arrived at Narbonne in 739": sadly for your propaganda, this guy is born in 960...so that's what, two centuries after...https://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/6615-gershom-ben-judah

"Girart de Vienne/Gerald who following his marriage with Imma (Emma) becomes the sovereign of Germany. ": this do not refer to an actual person, but it's a song:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girart_de_Vienne , and again it comes 4 hundred years later...

Do you need more or is that enough? I could go on for hours...did you come with skull & bones or free masonry you would have been much more credible...
 
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Kalachakra

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@ PTG

If i must to do any apologizes, i'll do it.

I did just the sponge with what i can read and the worst, i'm able to thinking by myself for build my own and personnal advice BUT if you really wish to consolidate your opinion on my subject as for my supposed "faiths or orientations", i would be thankful to you, Sir, of do not refer to you in the anti-Semitism towards me but, please, in the antisionism which is not as you money hear any shape of racism or stigmatization of a human community on an other one but well and truly a full philosophic sphere of influence reserved for a caste incapable to assume its membership in any shape of inter-community brotherhood because incapable to objectify by therselves.
It's well named fellony isn'it ?

Thus thank you for showing me the straw which i have in the eye but even if it means mentioning topics as skulls and bones, freemasonry and other " tools of one supposed elite " like you presented its, but i do not understand the interest of troller this debate in sterile quibbles.

The only thing which I know, it is that the truth hurts and that it is about that that we re-know it.

Excuse me for having shocked you by my words but i cannot reject the obvious facts for a simple point of detail, it would be against what others would name the obvious facts and we are here to share divergente views.

I respect your conformity which would aim to be reassuring even if it displeases me but to deform not my words to accommodate them in of well property pensance politically correct of very bad taste anyway...
It's useless to flood a fish in the water.
I'll never be an Yes-Man, make process to my mom too that's far well for impacted.

And what God saves the queen by the hells !!!

Thanks about your read, cordially.
 

Pepé The Grower

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Honestly, KK,

I'm all about free speech, i don't judge you, and i would love to talk further with you about the topic of the deep state yet i have a really, really, hard time trying to understand what your sentences means...it must be the language barrier...so i guess i'll stop there.

May peace be upon you,:tiphat:
 

Gry

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I wish the first one could be seen by everyone.
I will go to my grave with respect and affection for Smedley Butler.
Alan Dulles makes Benedict Arnold look like a choir boy.
 

GoatCheese

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GoatCheese : If you watch the Deep State vid, it shows us that Kennedy was shot by more than one assailant shooting from different angles. The biggest surprise to me was that the fatal shot came from a storm drain/culvert.

Yea, even James Files was with another shooter, Charles Nicoletti, as he tells on the interview. But he says he knew of noone else.
But there have been talk of other hit teams being on the plaza that day.
..and i'm sure there are lot of "carefully placed red-herrings" among the JFK theories.

We have to remember that people started running towards the grassy knoll right after JFK was shot, so people really heard a shot coming from over there. This was also caught on film, people moving/pointing towards the grassy knoll.

James Files also tells how he bit the bullet casing after the shot, and such a casing, with a dent on it, has been found from the grassy knoll.
 

gaiusmarius

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Yea, even James Files was with another shooter, Charles Nicoletti, as he tells on the interview. But he says he knew of noone else.
But there have been talk of other hit teams being on the plaza that day.
..and i'm sure there are lot of "carefully placed red-herrings" among the JFK theories.

We have to remember that people started running towards the grassy knoll right after JFK was shot, so people really heard a shot coming from over there. This was also caught on film, people moving/pointing towards the grassy knoll.

James Files also tells how he bit the bullet casing after the shot, and such a casing, with a dent on it, has been found from the grassy knoll.


yeah thats what it comes down to, there are many red herrings out there. some say the driver shot him too. but i agree with you the Fields interview is very convincing. the guy is either a great actor, or he is telling it as he knows the truth.
 

Gry

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To lie to a president in a time of war, and to make secret treaties with the enemy.
To lie to and betray five more presidents.
He made possible what Smedley had managed to postpone 11 years earlier.
 

MJPassion

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I'm still digesting the first vid....


Man... That was like a bad acid trip... I knew this shit was deep but DAMN!

Where does the current POTUS fit in?
He's got to somewhere, somehow or he wouldn't be in the position he's in!
 
Y

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The British Monarchy were staunch supporters of Hitler up to 1939 because they were of German decent, changing their name from Sax-Coburg-Gotha in 1917 to Windsor so as to try and fool the British public.

The tax dodging queen was doing nazi salutes when she was seven.
They only fucked her uncle off when public opinion was against him.
Look at the 1st world war, basically a big family argument.
 

Bumbatar

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In this video Rufus Truth Fist speaks truth and knowledge of the neoliberal imperialist globalist agenda of genocide and eugenics through the CIA's use of crack cocaine in black communities as a rat poison and as a way of financing imperialist death squads massacring impoverished people of the third world seeking revolutionary socialist change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cai7GtoiRbU

Black_Fist.png
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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if it is the truth shouldn't these people be tried for treason and war crimes etc

Most all players mentioned in those video's have already passed on, or are very-very old by now I would think, so there would have to be posthumous investigations into long deceased peoples lives for anything to make sense of it all, and then for what end? To challenge and change what we think that we know, and makes you think?

If so ,then that can only be a good thing.
 

gaiusmarius

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until we start putting Clinton for Yugoslavia, Bush and Bush for Iraq and Afghanistan, <Obama for Afghanistan, Libya and Syiria, in front of war crime courts, we can expect each new president to start more wars to keep Israel happy and the war profits flowing in, while the public is bled dry to pay for continues war.
 

brown_thumb

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until we start putting Clinton for Yugoslavia, Bush and Bush for Iraq and Afghanistan, <Obama for Afghanistan, Libya and Syiria, in front of war crime courts, we can expect each new president to start more wars to keep Israel happy and the war profits flowing in, while the public is bled dry to pay for continues war.

TRUTH!!
 

minds_I

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Question Gypsy, when did politics become an open subject?

PS. glad you are free.

Addendum: after reading more I am just shaking my head at some of the ideas put forth.

I apply Occam's razor to the notion of....how do you keep a conspiracy as large as, Ford supplying Hitler, JFK"s assignation and so forth a secret? When you consider the number of people involved, the lack of tangible evidence.
 

Kalachakra

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Question Gypsy, when did politics become an open subject?

PS. glad you are free.

Addendum: after reading more I am just shaking my head at some of the ideas put forth.

I apply Occam's razor to the notion of....how do you keep a conspiracy as large as, Ford supplying Hitler, JFK"s assignation and so forth a secret? When you consider the number of people involved, the lack of tangible evidence.

High !
If you want something to cut with this precious tool, i can.
In my country we have on the 80's a major matters with contamined blood (aids inside...) who did the first big sized public sanitary scandal.
A minister of us was incriminated and judged for that.
Verdict : " Person in charge but not culprit".
In other countries he would not even have arrived at the court for that neglect, in the same times is son was questioned in various traffics (weapons, drugs etc.) for finally walk under full sky.
But the "career" does not stop for all that...

This so gentle minister (yes MSM sell us like this process :laughing: ) had other responsibilities, for example that of the foreign relations.
This "man" told on public who Daesh and consort did a great job, right in his boot.

And please about Lybia and Khadafi, never forget Sarkozy who opened the prom while in France took out the scandal of the financing of its presidential election campaign by Muhamar which, strangely was suffocated in a deafening silence...

And that's just quibbles.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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Question Gypsy, when did politics become an open subject?

PS. glad you are free.

Addendum: after reading more I am just shaking my head at some of the ideas put forth.

I apply Occam's razor to the notion of....how do you keep a conspiracy as large as, Ford supplying Hitler, JFK"s assignation and so forth a secret? When you consider the number of people involved, the lack of tangible evidence.

To me this thread is about questioning what history has been available for regular consumption, what I was told in history lessons at school, and more revealingly not told about the engineering of wars and the historical implications that arise from that, as they reflect upon the present.

There is plenty of discussion and historical accounts around this topic, just google 'Ford Hitler Standard Oil', and/or check these links:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMKnH2BlkBA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford
 
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