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Old 10-21-2017, 11:58 PM #1
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Maximising the rec legal 4 plant limit

How's it going, fellow Oregonian?

I'm currently running my rec 4 plant set up in a 4x4 tent with a 600w closed hood. Coco+Blumats+Lucas formula. I'm fairly satisfied with how smoothly things go and how hands off everything is, but the veg+bloom times only really gives me 3 crops per year.

I'm trying to maximise the 4 plant limit, but also up my total harvests. What would be the best way to go about this?

I'm thinking about switching to a 2x4 tent with 2x 300w LED units. Flower 2 plants at a time perpetually, 35 days apart and have a seperate veg tent. Basically, every 35 days I'd harvest 1 plant, move 1 plant from veg into the flo chamber and also get some clones ready.

Amy I missing a trick? Is there a better/easier way to achieve what I'm after? I'm still planning on sticking with Coco+Blumats due to the hands-off nature of the set up.

Outdoor isnt an option, as out back yard isn't fenced in.

Many thanks!
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Old 11-07-2017, 08:31 AM #2
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I bet you could still save yourself a few hundred in electricity over the summer vegging outdoors. Never heard of rippers coming for veg plants.
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Old 11-19-2017, 04:47 PM #3
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Oregon law says that outdoor grows must be fenced. I would suggest though that you consider building a fenced in area next summer. Well maintained outdoor plants can yield 1 to 2 lbs each.

There are several ways that you could increase your yield indoors. Running seperate veg and flowering tents is one way to do that. It can be hard to get the timing down for a perpetual harvest system though. It will take you some time to get in the swing of it, so don't be disappointed or get discouraged if it is not smooth at first. I would also suggest vegging for more than 35 days. I like to let my vegging plants go at least 6-8 weeks before they are put into flowering. As you will only have 2 plants flowering at a time, you can veg longer to get them bigger. Increasing your light in your flowering tent would also increase your yield. I run a 1000W in a 4 x 4 tent and don't think it is overkill in the slightest.
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You can start the perpetual any time you like and set up the harvesting times however you want. Although with only 4 flowering plants you are kind of limited.

As an example start a clone every month. Have veg times equal to flowering times so say 8-10 weeks. This will give you bigger plants with more yield and you can harvest one every month.

The 4 plant limit sucks but just have each clone be a different kind for variety sake and each plant should yield enough to last you for a bit.
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Old 11-19-2017, 08:28 PM #5
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Perpetual + sourcing outside clones == recipe for disaster or poison. When (not if) you get an outbreak of something from a clone, you'll either have to tear out everything infected (usually means dumping everything in the perpetual flower) OR use some kind of organic or inorganic poisons.

4 plant limit is definitely a limit. Any way you could work your way up to 4 cabs, one cab for each plant? Hepa filtered intakes and outtakes (made from furnace filters) will keep infections/pollen separated.

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2 cabs or tents/rooms with 2 plants in each. Scrog both.

Flower one.

When you harvest you flip the other room. Take clones. 2 weeks in cloner and 6-8 weeks veg depending on your flower time in other room. Flip flop two rooms. As big as you can fit/afford. The right strain will fill any space.

So you will have 5-6 harvests per year depending on strain.

Outside clones will bring trouble. I have yet to get a clean clone in OR. It's terrible. I quarantine everything.
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start yer outdoor clones now.
I set in 6' tall clones every may 1st and harvest 6+lb of top shelf nugs from each plant.
My trees were 12' tall last season 12' round, I had 26lbs of cured nugs from our 4 rec plan
we have been packaging all processed extracts, oil, vape cartridges, and edibles from the 48 plant grow this week
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5 lights vertical bare bulbs in an X patern
4 plants in large-er pots (think 7-15 gallons) in a diamond pattern between the bulbs
8x8 bloom space or larger
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If I was going to do perpetual growing , my veg plants wouldn't even be in a tent , just a light and a fan in a part of the house where the light wouldn't annoy me.
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good on ya' cabinet ninja for deciding to grow your own
this sounds like it could be fun and i hope i can help
so how much space do you have?
how much smoke would you like to produce
/i know you mentioned a tent, but is that tent in its own room?
how many watts do you think you would be comfortable running?
(watts=$$$)
how many clones, babies can you legally have?
ever grown before?

just some questions to get you thinking
best of luck!
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