What does one look for in a good yucca extract??
The stuff out there is very confusing.
The stuff out there is very confusing.
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Yucca extract
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Why, what benefits are there (for the plant) over powder?
What make a good yucca extract?
What make a good yucca extract?
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Can anybody recommend a quality powder that is inexpensive?
Liquid juice is high in saponin but way too expensive.
Looking for something high in saponin.
The nature of saponin gives them activity as surfactants that can be used to enhance penetration of macromolecules such as proteins through cell membranes.
shag
Liquid juice is high in saponin but way too expensive.
Looking for something high in saponin.
The nature of saponin gives them activity as surfactants that can be used to enhance penetration of macromolecules such as proteins through cell membranes.
shag
thank you for your time and for the info you provided!!!
Looks like a good product.
But I am looking for a powder for foliar sprays!
Looks like a good product.
But I am looking for a powder for foliar sprays!
What is everyone's thoughts on this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yucca-Schid...izer_Soil_Amendments&var=&hash=item258d94c22d
10% saponin!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yucca-Schid...izer_Soil_Amendments&var=&hash=item258d94c22d
10% saponin!
Hi Shaggy,
Long time no read
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If it's only about saponins, then I don't get why someone would buy expensive stuff if there are soooo many alternatives! You can even buy pure saponin (no synthetic stuff but from natural sources, i.e. extracted from plants) and it isn't that expensive...
Like I already told you in another thread, good sources for saponins are:
- Soap bark (Quillaja saponaria)
- Primrose roots (Primula veris & P. eliator)
- Seneca snakeroot (Polygala senega)
- Soapberry (Sapindus saponaria)
And a little less:
- Primrose flowers (Primula veris, P. eliator and others)
- Common soapwort (Saponaria officinalis)
- Ivy (Hedera helix)
Some of these plants also grow wild in the states, others are protected species.
Didn't put Yucca (and soaproot (Chlorogalum sp.) BTW) on that list cause it's seldom used in Europe but it looks like the roots are used for commercial saponin extraction in the US...
Long time no read
.If it's only about saponins, then I don't get why someone would buy expensive stuff if there are soooo many alternatives! You can even buy pure saponin (no synthetic stuff but from natural sources, i.e. extracted from plants) and it isn't that expensive...
Like I already told you in another thread, good sources for saponins are:
- Soap bark (Quillaja saponaria)
- Primrose roots (Primula veris & P. eliator)
- Seneca snakeroot (Polygala senega)
- Soapberry (Sapindus saponaria)
And a little less:
- Primrose flowers (Primula veris, P. eliator and others)
- Common soapwort (Saponaria officinalis)
- Ivy (Hedera helix)
Some of these plants also grow wild in the states, others are protected species.
Didn't put Yucca (and soaproot (Chlorogalum sp.) BTW) on that list cause it's seldom used in Europe but it looks like the roots are used for commercial saponin extraction in the US...
GrowMore has a product called EZ-Wet SE, 90% saponin derived from yucca schidigera ($89/2.5 gallons) that I use for both foliar and soil applications. 5-10ml/gallon is the suggested rate.
At a local grocery store that caters to the Mexican crowd, I saw 100% pure powdered yucca schidigera in pound bags for less than $10. According to "white lab coat pros" that formulate food recipes--saponin derived from yucca schidigera is one of the best.
While researching alternative pesticides to combat Root Aphids, I discovered some very interesting information regarding the potential insecticide properties of saponins (first PDF file)...and the second pdf file contains a rather extensive list of nature's source of saponins--yeah the study is about incorporating saponins in animal feed, but some of the science I found helpful. Maybe Only will find a few more for his list of natural saponins.
Cheers!
At a local grocery store that caters to the Mexican crowd, I saw 100% pure powdered yucca schidigera in pound bags for less than $10. According to "white lab coat pros" that formulate food recipes--saponin derived from yucca schidigera is one of the best.
While researching alternative pesticides to combat Root Aphids, I discovered some very interesting information regarding the potential insecticide properties of saponins (first PDF file)...and the second pdf file contains a rather extensive list of nature's source of saponins--yeah the study is about incorporating saponins in animal feed, but some of the science I found helpful. Maybe Only will find a few more for his list of natural saponins.
Cheers!
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Hi Shaggy,
Long time no read
It is good to see you around also!
Some of these plants also grow wild in the states, others are protected species.
I believe yucca is partialy protected in the USA.
Didn't put Yucca (and soaproot (Chlorogalum sp.) BTW) on that list cause it's seldom used in Europe but it looks like the roots are used for commercial saponin extraction in the US...
I see what your saying....it is good to have alternatives especially if it grows in your yard.
Yucca seems to be the easiest to source and cheapest also.
So I am trying to discern good from bad... high saponin content from low.
Again, it is good to here you type OO.
@EclipseFour20
Thank you for your input!
Very good information.
Good links too.
I am gonna dig deeper!
Thanks again for stopping by.
shag
P.S. I read your sig and I know what you mean. It's hard to help those that refuse to at least try and help themselves!
RikkiTikkiTavi
Member
not the cheapest, but its the yucca schidigera as mentioned, 50 brix, and they offer a version without preservatives so you don't have to worry about ill effects on your microbes:
http://www.tandjenterprises.com/CCPRO/Category/Yucca-Schidigera-Extract-Products
http://www.tandjenterprises.com/CCPRO/Category/Yucca-Schidigera-Extract-Products
good find though.
Also...think outside the box, check out your local feed store for Animed Pure Desert Yucca Powder, about $12 for 1 pound of 100% pure Schidigera Yucca root.
Cheers!
Cheers!
RikkiTikkiTavi
Member
does yucca powder dissolve completely in water? never used it before.
The stuff i got dissolves easily in warm water.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yucca-Extra...izer_Soil_Amendments&var=&hash=item258d94c22d
It is high quality...cheap too.
no bad microbes to contaminate things.
I have only my opinion but it seems better than the last stuff i purchased!!!
Still looking for the opinion of others before i buy in bulk!
I really think liquid is better but too expensive for my taste.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yucca-Extra...izer_Soil_Amendments&var=&hash=item258d94c22d
It is high quality...cheap too.
no bad microbes to contaminate things.
I have only my opinion but it seems better than the last stuff i purchased!!!
Still looking for the opinion of others before i buy in bulk!
I really think liquid is better but too expensive for my taste.
RikkiTikkiTavi
Member
are there any known, or theorized pro's/con's of liquid vs powdered? i've only recently started looking into yucca after i decided to add a compost tea brewer to my setup.
Food quality yucca (humans & animals) is soluble in both water and/or alcohol.
But at what rates? Most of the dilution rates I have seen apply yucca schidigera diluted to 0.2-0.25% (which I believe is equivalent to about 7.5-10 grams per gallon--assuming 1 gram of yucca powder is equivalent to 1 ml).
I recall my great grandmother mixing yucca schidigera powder in her "sugar flavored iced tea" (she would add 5-6 spoons of sugar in 1 glass of iced tea). But she also was a nut case--as she was a granola cruncher long before granola was invented...lol.
