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Old 07-17-2017, 12:31 AM #11
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Thanks for all the input. Seems like kind of a toss up. I have some girls in veg and may do a side by side to see what works better for my set up.
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Correct me if I am wrong on this, but while all the leaves work to absorb light and help convert sugars for its food supply, not every leaf goes to the total growth of the plant. If you cut a leaf on a left branch, it wont affect the growths on the other branch. Similarly, if you cut a fan leaf thats attached to the main stalk, you are slowing the bud branch's growth, but not the buds growth since the buds growth is affected by light to its sugar leaf. So, you are able to remove all of your stalk fan leaves once your plant switches its focus to bud development over vegetative growth.

I also find it funny that a lot of defoliation's detractors are people who dont even top their plant. Obviously you dont need to remove leaves when you grow a single branch...
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Old 07-17-2017, 02:20 AM #13
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I find removing leaves on a constant regular basis is best. A leaf or two everyday in veg is better than a mass defoliation at a predetermined time. Way less stress on the plant.
Everyone is right in the fact that the leaves make sugars that feed the plant. They are then transported to the plant via the leaf stem. I therefore like to leave 1/2 to 3/4 of the leaf stem. The plant will continue to draw out energy and nutrients from the leaf stem for a few days until it drys up and then should be removed if it does not fall off. Remove the leaves only when a new shoot is growing and new leafs are forming.
Some strains will respond better than others.If done right the plants will hardly show any adverse effects and new leafs are being formed almost as fast as you take off the others.

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Old 07-17-2017, 03:31 AM #14
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If you have an understanding to how a leaf works and its role for the plant, yes the solar panels, then you'd hesitate in hacking half its energy source off. I agree some plants will not mind it so much and other plants will, but if you pull a shade leaf off from where there are budding sites, then your reducing the energy these sites get. You can train a plant to have a more open structure using string, ties and LST and also better than hacking off the energy converters, instead bend them down under branches allowing light to penetrate further.
My go to grow master is Jorge Cervantes and he is the first to say this is not a good idea. Each to their own though, this is my opinion on the subject.
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That's funny when ever I mention the non defloiation team I always
Mention Jorge.

Jorge is an outdoor grower. Defoliating trees is dumb. Hence his opinion.

I find most people against usually haven't tried it.

I have found out otherwise. Better quality bud and yield. If you do it right.
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:45 AM #15
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I just found out why my top leaves were turning yellow. Fusarium wilt.
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:56 AM #16
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Well that took a hard left turn.

People who don't defoliate indoors have hilarious trim:flower ratios.
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Old 07-17-2017, 05:29 AM #17
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You sure .Just dealt with that when my rez temps got high. AC went down and it was over 100F outside yikes!

Use Pro Tekt is slows is down a lot.

If it is fusarium the very bottom of the stem where it meets the soil will usually swell and my burst/crack.

Get your temps down and use silicon.
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Old 07-17-2017, 05:30 AM #18
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Well that took a hard left turn.

People who don't defoliate indoors have hilarious trim:flower ratios.
Right! I haven't trimmed a single larf bud in years.
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Old 07-17-2017, 05:32 AM #19
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Unless you grow OG. Then the ratio is always on point regardless.
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Old 07-17-2017, 05:45 AM #20
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Yes it is nice when all they need is a few canes.

Rather than a pre-flip, week 3 and week 5 motherfucker.


People can talk solar panels and stress all they want. You know what is stressful to a plant? Not producing seeds.
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